I'd rather drive a "naturally good lookin' truck" , than worry 'bout a
truck
cosmetically made to look good!!.........but ,then, that just my humble
opinion.
Allen
Don Simmons wrote:
> Deve, are you going to drive your truck after you're done or will you
be
> afraid to drive it?
> Don Simmons
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deve Krehbiel <dkrehbiel@kscable.com>
> To: william moldenhauer <wmh678@worldnet.att.net>; Tom3600@webtv.net
> <Tom3600@webtv.net>; Wayne Osborne <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
> Cc: oletrucks@autox.team.net <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Show Trophys
>
> >Yeah! To date, I have roughly $15K in this truck already and have
done at
> >least 90% of the work myself. Its still cheaper than a new truck with
no
> >personality, and since I am tore completely apart, why not set it up
to
> show
> >quality standards? I could care less about trophys, I am more
interested in
> >how an amatuer's work (mine) stacks up against the pro's. I am
already
> >having the time of my life doing this and the extra effort to do it
right
> is
> >fun, so why not make it the best it can be while I am at it?
> >
> >I am finding out from various sources however, that what Wayne says
is
> >true.. judging is uneven, the system is unorganized, and there is no
real
> >standards set for judging in the first place. Bob Adler says the bell
> >housing was painted with engine color but the truck touted as the
National
> >Champion in "How to Restore Your Chevrolet Pickup" has its bell
housing
> >painted cast iron color. Too many discrepancies and not enough
guidance.
> Add
> >to that the MANY assembly plants Chevy had back then and the
different
> parts
> >sources, and what you have is any number of different colors and
other
> >anomalies to confuse the issue. It was made to be driven and abused,
not
> >shown in competition 50 years later. Still tho, would be nice to have
a
> >single organization that oversees the competitions and writes very
clear
> >guidelines for us. I want the book that says what color each part is
and
> >what level of particular the judges will be. Guess there isnt one?
> >
> >Deve
> >50 3100
> >49 3600
> >www.speedprint.com/Deves50/index.html
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "william moldenhauer" <wmh678@worldnet.att.net>
> >To: <Tom3600@webtv.net>; "Wayne Osborne" <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
> >Cc: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 12:00 PM
> >Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Show Trophys
> >
> >
> >> What, I could of paid someone to do the work?
> >> I've shelled out twenty grand already and have done 90% of the work
> >myself.
> >> Bill 53 3600 hot rod
> >> My Website
> >> www.hotrodstogo.com
> >> "Give a man a fish,he will eat for a day
> >> Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat
> >> and drink beer all day"
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <Tom3600@webtv.net>
> >> To: "Wayne Osborne" <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
> >> Cc: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 10:51 AM
> >> Subject: [oletrucks] Show Trophys
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > --WebTV-Mail-17621-258
> >> >
> >> > Wayne -
> >> >
> >> > AMEN....I agree with you 100%. The trophy is the one in your
> >> > mind.....that you did the work and are proud of it!
> >> > Most of the trophys should go to the body shop/interior/engine
builder
> >> > who were paid the 20k+ to do the work.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tom Poterack
> >> > '49 Chevy 3600
> >> > http://www.chevytrucks.org/users/wayne/tom49.jpg
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --WebTV-Mail-17621-258
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> >> > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:38:52 -0400
> >> > To: oletrucks@autox.team.net
> >> > From: Wayne Osborne <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Show Quality Questions
> >> > In-Reply-To: <001801bfab88$842ce560$d4de5e18@kscable.com>
> >> > Mime-Version: 1.0
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> >> > Reply-To: Wayne Osborne <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
> >> >
> >> > I used to go to local car shows but found that the judging can be
very
> >> very
> >> > skewed, to the point that I don't really go any more. I was
gassing up
> >> > recently and an older gentlemen came up and started talking about
the
> >old
> >> > chevy truck he used to have---of course it was just like mine...
We had
> >a
> >> > good 30 minute conversation about the trucks, he made me feel so
good
> >and
> >> > proud to own my truck as he viewed it for what it was--not the
fact
> that
> >i
> >> > haven't spend 20k on it but just the fact that I owned it and
valued it
> >> for
> >> > what it was. He was amazed at all the shiny chrome on the engine
and
> was
> >> > just in awe. Should've seen his face when I told him to crawl in
and
> >fire
> >> > it up, I could just see the memories flying through his head...
This to
> >me
> >> > was and will always be, worth more than any trophy I could get at
a
> >> > show.... Wayne
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 06:55 AM 4/21/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >> > >I don't know if we have anyone here that knows, but if so, I
would
> sure
> >> > >appreciate the help..
> >> > >
> >> > >I am at a crossroads where assembly is starting and my goal is
to make
> >> this
> >> > >a Show quality truck. Of course I want it to be the best there
is and
> >so
> >> I
> >> > >have many questions. I wish we had a judge we could ask but I am
> >certain
> >> > >that most of you will know at least some of these questions..
> >> > >
> >> > >1) Which is preferable to a judge and also to preserve and
restore...
> >> > >individually primering and painting every nut, bolt and washer
painted
> >in
> >> > >its natural color, or zinc plating? I have all the small parts
bead
> >> blasted
> >> > >and can go either way. I have done some primering and painting
of the
> >> small
> >> > >parts, but not enough where I could change course. I DO feel
very
> >> strongly
> >> > >about preserving these small parts in some way.
> >> > >
> >> > >2) There are certain parts that are confusing as far as color
scheme..
> >> for
> >> > >example, the bell housing is painted with cast iron color (cast
blast)
> >> but
> >> > >the small access plate on the bell housing was made out of sheet
metal
> >so
> >> > >wouldnt it be colored natural sheet metal color (same question
for the
> >> bell
> >> > >housing cover)? Also, the water pump is cast iron color (or is
it the
> >> engine
> >> > >gray) but the water pump pulley.. shouldnt that be black?
> >> > >
> >> > >The last question is I have to wonder since I have never been to
a
> >> antique
> >> > >car show in competition is exactly how much does the judge know?
I am
> >> sure
> >> > >they are experts, but maybe not on particular models. Maybe
these
> >> intricate
> >> > >details are not all that important? Would be awful nice to be
able to
> >> speak
> >> > >with a judge. I know that I have seen the results of some of the
> >smaller
> >> > >shows where the public judges and what I have seen is very
unfair..
> the
> >> guy
> >> > >with the fulton visors, spotlight, huge whitewalls, chrome all
over
> the
> >> > >place gets the win. Authenticity is what I am going for but I
already
> >> know
> >> > >that will be marked down in some competitions. Anyone knowing
this
> info
> >> > >please respond.
> >> > >
> >> > >Thanks again!
> >> > >
> >> > >Deve
> >> > >50 3100
> >> > >49 3600
> >> > >www.speedprint.com/Deves50/index.html
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