Deve, are you going to drive your truck after you're done or will you be
afraid to drive it?
Don Simmons
-----Original Message-----
From: Deve Krehbiel <dkrehbiel@kscable.com>
To: william moldenhauer <wmh678@worldnet.att.net>; Tom3600@webtv.net
<Tom3600@webtv.net>; Wayne Osborne <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
Cc: oletrucks@autox.team.net <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Show Trophys
>Yeah! To date, I have roughly $15K in this truck already and have done at
>least 90% of the work myself. Its still cheaper than a new truck with no
>personality, and since I am tore completely apart, why not set it up to
show
>quality standards? I could care less about trophys, I am more interested in
>how an amatuer's work (mine) stacks up against the pro's. I am already
>having the time of my life doing this and the extra effort to do it right
is
>fun, so why not make it the best it can be while I am at it?
>
>I am finding out from various sources however, that what Wayne says is
>true.. judging is uneven, the system is unorganized, and there is no real
>standards set for judging in the first place. Bob Adler says the bell
>housing was painted with engine color but the truck touted as the National
>Champion in "How to Restore Your Chevrolet Pickup" has its bell housing
>painted cast iron color. Too many discrepancies and not enough guidance.
Add
>to that the MANY assembly plants Chevy had back then and the different
parts
>sources, and what you have is any number of different colors and other
>anomalies to confuse the issue. It was made to be driven and abused, not
>shown in competition 50 years later. Still tho, would be nice to have a
>single organization that oversees the competitions and writes very clear
>guidelines for us. I want the book that says what color each part is and
>what level of particular the judges will be. Guess there isnt one?
>
>Deve
>50 3100
>49 3600
>www.speedprint.com/Deves50/index.html
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "william moldenhauer" <wmh678@worldnet.att.net>
>To: <Tom3600@webtv.net>; "Wayne Osborne" <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
>Cc: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 12:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Show Trophys
>
>
>> What, I could of paid someone to do the work?
>> I've shelled out twenty grand already and have done 90% of the work
>myself.
>> Bill 53 3600 hot rod
>> My Website
>> www.hotrodstogo.com
>> "Give a man a fish,he will eat for a day
>> Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat
>> and drink beer all day"
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Tom3600@webtv.net>
>> To: "Wayne Osborne" <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
>> Cc: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 10:51 AM
>> Subject: [oletrucks] Show Trophys
>>
>>
>> >
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>> >
>> > Wayne -
>> >
>> > AMEN....I agree with you 100%. The trophy is the one in your
>> > mind.....that you did the work and are proud of it!
>> > Most of the trophys should go to the body shop/interior/engine builder
>> > who were paid the 20k+ to do the work.
>> >
>> >
>> > Tom Poterack
>> > '49 Chevy 3600
>> > http://www.chevytrucks.org/users/wayne/tom49.jpg
>> >
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>> > To: oletrucks@autox.team.net
>> > From: Wayne Osborne <wayne@chevytrucks.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Show Quality Questions
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>> >
>> > I used to go to local car shows but found that the judging can be very
>> very
>> > skewed, to the point that I don't really go any more. I was gassing up
>> > recently and an older gentlemen came up and started talking about the
>old
>> > chevy truck he used to have---of course it was just like mine... We had
>a
>> > good 30 minute conversation about the trucks, he made me feel so good
>and
>> > proud to own my truck as he viewed it for what it was--not the fact
that
>i
>> > haven't spend 20k on it but just the fact that I owned it and valued it
>> for
>> > what it was. He was amazed at all the shiny chrome on the engine and
was
>> > just in awe. Should've seen his face when I told him to crawl in and
>fire
>> > it up, I could just see the memories flying through his head... This to
>me
>> > was and will always be, worth more than any trophy I could get at a
>> > show.... Wayne
>> >
>> >
>> > At 06:55 AM 4/21/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> > >I don't know if we have anyone here that knows, but if so, I would
sure
>> > >appreciate the help..
>> > >
>> > >I am at a crossroads where assembly is starting and my goal is to make
>> this
>> > >a Show quality truck. Of course I want it to be the best there is and
>so
>> I
>> > >have many questions. I wish we had a judge we could ask but I am
>certain
>> > >that most of you will know at least some of these questions..
>> > >
>> > >1) Which is preferable to a judge and also to preserve and restore...
>> > >individually primering and painting every nut, bolt and washer painted
>in
>> > >its natural color, or zinc plating? I have all the small parts bead
>> blasted
>> > >and can go either way. I have done some primering and painting of the
>> small
>> > >parts, but not enough where I could change course. I DO feel very
>> strongly
>> > >about preserving these small parts in some way.
>> > >
>> > >2) There are certain parts that are confusing as far as color scheme..
>> for
>> > >example, the bell housing is painted with cast iron color (cast blast)
>> but
>> > >the small access plate on the bell housing was made out of sheet metal
>so
>> > >wouldnt it be colored natural sheet metal color (same question for the
>> bell
>> > >housing cover)? Also, the water pump is cast iron color (or is it the
>> engine
>> > >gray) but the water pump pulley.. shouldnt that be black?
>> > >
>> > >The last question is I have to wonder since I have never been to a
>> antique
>> > >car show in competition is exactly how much does the judge know? I am
>> sure
>> > >they are experts, but maybe not on particular models. Maybe these
>> intricate
>> > >details are not all that important? Would be awful nice to be able to
>> speak
>> > >with a judge. I know that I have seen the results of some of the
>smaller
>> > >shows where the public judges and what I have seen is very unfair..
the
>> guy
>> > >with the fulton visors, spotlight, huge whitewalls, chrome all over
the
>> > >place gets the win. Authenticity is what I am going for but I already
>> know
>> > >that will be marked down in some competitions. Anyone knowing this
info
>> > >please respond.
>> > >
>> > >Thanks again!
>> > >
>> > >Deve
>> > >50 3100
>> > >49 3600
>> > >www.speedprint.com/Deves50/index.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >oletrucks is devoted to Chevy and GM trucks built between 1941 and
1959
>> > >
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