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On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Betty Miller <bettymiller@cds1.net> wrote:
> Marty,
> I loved it as did my friend, Marianne Sonntag.
> Thanks,
> Betty
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net]
> On
> Behalf Of Martin Sinai Rayman
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 1:07 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] 10 years old!
>
> Or the ride that I lead in West Marin a few weeks ago. The line up of
> about
> 35 autos went at a slower speed and had a stop in Pt. Reyes Sta. before a
> leisurely lunch at the Olema Inn. I got feedbeek that some folks really
> likes that. Once in a while, such a ride is attractive.
> Marty
> '53 MG TD
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > I know Betty's sentiments have been stated by others in the past, and
> > it's true - our events are typically pretty much romping drives, often
> > with minimal focus on comfortable destinations or extended social
> > events or restaurant lunches.To be fair, that is not always the case,
> > as we also do make stops at cafes, wineries, and more casual
> > restaurants. Being a very loose group, we are pretty spontaneous with our
> drives.
> >
> > However, I have also seen greater attendance at our drives that are
> > pre-planned, on better roads, and with destinations where we can
> > socialize a bit more than at the start of the drive, and sit together
> > for lunch. I think that is much of what has made the WCC popular,
> > particularly with some of the drivers of cars that are either (use
> > your own adjectives) - more sedate/valuable/larger/less sporty, etc.
> >
> > It's probably safe to say that an NOBBC drive will be less well
> > organized, more spontaneous, on somewhat rougher roads, at somewhat
> > higher speeds, and with more casual destinations (and at lower cost).
> > That actually appeals to many members. But there are also the
> > pre-planned events such as Dawson's Valentine's Day drive, drives that
> > have ended at John and Julia Kenner's place where we have a wonderful
> > BBQ, even one or two of the drives Trish and I have led in the past,
> > as well as destination drives thanks to the efforts of other members.
> >
> > It would be nicer if people like Betty didn't feel excluded from our
> > group due to drive experiences that are not to their liking, since
> > NOBBC drives really are quite diverse, and there will always be
> > enjoyable events for those looking for a bit more comfort at a bit
> > less speed. So, I have a
> > proposal:
> >
> > Whenever possible, perhaps it would be more helpful to communicate our
> > ideas for drive routes and destinations ahead of each drive, and do a
> > better job of characterizing the road surface/speed/windiness
> > conditions ahead of time, so people can decide whether that particular
> > drive is for them. For example, I agree with Ron that British cars
> > were designed for British roads, but I've spent time in England, and
> > our roads tend to be less well maintained, and have more elevational
> > changes, particularly in Sonoma and Napa Counties. Ask some of the big
> > Jag owners how happy they are about their brakes at the end of some of
> our
> steeper routes, for just one example.
> >
> > Let me give it a shot with the route(s) that Ron has tentatively
> > planned for the anniversary drive:
> >
> > The Fisk Mill Cove destination is a rugged, beautiful oceanside picnic
> > destination, with a high bluff (windy, cool) observation area where
> > some people can eat lunch, but with no centralized location for
> > everyone to sit and socialize together. It is a bit of a hillside
> > scramble to the bluff, so not appropriate for everyone, or those in
> > nice shoes or clothes. It's beautiful, but mostly appreciated by those
> who
> like outdoor activities.
> >
> > Meeting at Warm Springs Dam means the drive will appeal most to those
> > members in Sonoma County, since it's a bit of a drive to get there,
> > and a longish drive to Fisk Mill Cove and back home.
> >
> > Skaggs Springs Road has some great curves and scenery, but also
> > potholes and blind turns, and steep sections. There are some very fast
> > sections, which is why it appeals to the fast motorbikes and fast cars.
> >
> > King Ridge Road is very narrow, slower, more scenic (if that can be
> > believed), steeper, and longer, but in my opinion, with a slightly
> > better road surface.
> >
> > Neither route is anywhere near as long as the typical REME drives,
> > which last for hours and hours, but it seems most of us with 40-50
> > year old cars don't want to subject ourselves or the cars to long,
> > grueling drives that new MINIs take in stride (including myself).
> > Nevertheless, it is the anniversary drive, so is intended to be
> > longer, with more striking scenery along the way. Be prepared with a
> > full tank of gas, brakes in good condition, a good spare tire, tools,
> > warm clothes, and a picnic lunch. You might even want to bring a light
> > folding camp chair if there's no room at tables.
> >
> > If this more strenuous drive does not appeal to you, please voice your
> > opinion and ideas for other routes and destinations so the NOBBC can
> > be more inclusive, and not drive people away.
> >
> > Best to you all,
> > Greg Tatarian
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/31/2011 7:31 PM, Betty Miller wrote:
> >
> >> Ron,
> >> Truthfully, the last event that we attended was not our cup o'tea.
> >> Sitting
> >> on hard rocks to picnic in the middle of nowhere is not my idea of a
> >> fun time. Perhaps I'm not cut out for your club.
> >> Betty
> >>
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