Or the ride that I lead in West Marin a few weeks ago. The line up of about
35 autos went at a slower speed and had a stop in Pt. Reyes Sta. before a
leisurely lunch at the Olema Inn. I got feedbeek that some folks really
likes that. Once in a while, such a ride is attractive.
Marty
'53 MG TD
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Greg Tatarian <gtwincams@gmail.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I know Betty's sentiments have been stated by others in the past, and it's
> true - our events are typically pretty much romping drives, often with
> minimal focus on comfortable destinations or extended social events or
> restaurant lunches.To be fair, that is not always the case, as we also do
> make stops at cafes, wineries, and more casual restaurants. Being a very
> loose group, we are pretty spontaneous with our drives.
>
> However, I have also seen greater attendance at our drives that are
> pre-planned, on better roads, and with destinations where we can socialize a
> bit more than at the start of the drive, and sit together for lunch. I think
> that is much of what has made the WCC popular, particularly with some of the
> drivers of cars that are either (use your own adjectives) - more
> sedate/valuable/larger/less sporty, etc.
>
> It's probably safe to say that an NOBBC drive will be less well organized,
> more spontaneous, on somewhat rougher roads, at somewhat higher speeds, and
> with more casual destinations (and at lower cost). That actually appeals to
> many members. But there are also the pre-planned events such as Dawson's
> Valentine's Day drive, drives that have ended at John and Julia Kenner's
> place where we have a wonderful BBQ, even one or two of the drives Trish and
> I have led in the past, as well as destination drives thanks to the efforts
> of other members.
>
> It would be nicer if people like Betty didn't feel excluded from our group
> due to drive experiences that are not to their liking, since NOBBC drives
> really are quite diverse, and there will always be enjoyable events for
> those looking for a bit more comfort at a bit less speed. So, I have a
> proposal:
>
> Whenever possible, perhaps it would be more helpful to communicate our
> ideas for drive routes and destinations ahead of each drive, and do a better
> job of characterizing the road surface/speed/windiness conditions ahead of
> time, so people can decide whether that particular drive is for them. For
> example, I agree with Ron that British cars were designed for British roads,
> but I've spent time in England, and our roads tend to be less well
> maintained, and have more elevational changes, particularly in Sonoma and
> Napa Counties. Ask some of the big Jag owners how happy they are about their
> brakes at the end of some of our steeper routes, for just one example.
>
> Let me give it a shot with the route(s) that Ron has tentatively planned
> for the anniversary drive:
>
> The Fisk Mill Cove destination is a rugged, beautiful oceanside picnic
> destination, with a high bluff (windy, cool) observation area where some
> people can eat lunch, but with no centralized location for everyone to sit
> and socialize together. It is a bit of a hillside scramble to the bluff, so
> not appropriate for everyone, or those in nice shoes or clothes. It's
> beautiful, but mostly appreciated by those who like outdoor activities.
>
> Meeting at Warm Springs Dam means the drive will appeal most to those
> members in Sonoma County, since it's a bit of a drive to get there, and a
> longish drive to Fisk Mill Cove and back home.
>
> Skaggs Springs Road has some great curves and scenery, but also potholes
> and blind turns, and steep sections. There are some very fast sections,
> which is why it appeals to the fast motorbikes and fast cars.
>
> King Ridge Road is very narrow, slower, more scenic (if that can be
> believed), steeper, and longer, but in my opinion, with a slightly better
> road surface.
>
> Neither route is anywhere near as long as the typical REME drives, which
> last for hours and hours, but it seems most of us with 40-50 year old cars
> don't want to subject ourselves or the cars to long, grueling drives that
> new MINIs take in stride (including myself). Nevertheless, it is the
> anniversary drive, so is intended to be longer, with more striking scenery
> along the way. Be prepared with a full tank of gas, brakes in good
> condition, a good spare tire, tools, warm clothes, and a picnic lunch. You
> might even want to bring a light folding camp chair if there's no room at
> tables.
>
> If this more strenuous drive does not appeal to you, please voice your
> opinion and ideas for other routes and destinations so the NOBBC can be more
> inclusive, and not drive people away.
>
> Best to you all,
> Greg Tatarian
>
>
>
> On 7/31/2011 7:31 PM, Betty Miller wrote:
>
>> Ron,
>> Truthfully, the last event that we attended was not our cup o'tea.
>> Sitting
>> on hard rocks to picnic in the middle of nowhere is not my idea of a fun
>> time. Perhaps I'm not cut out for your club.
>> Betty
>>
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