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RE: Two Super Supercharged MGB's

To: "Jerry Erbesfield" <jerbesfield@mindspring.com>,
Subject: RE: Two Super Supercharged MGB's
From: Barrie Robinson <barrier@bconnex.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:17:45 -0700
Jerry,

Seen the prices of Bentleys lately?


At 11:53 PM 7/23/2003 -0400, Jerry Erbesfield wrote:
>The Corvette's LS-1 engine was developed at the expense of and first used in
>light GM trucks. But that's as close at it gets! The C-5 model Vette ain't
>no truck! And you know what else? The 60's era Vettes bring 30,000 to
>$150,000 when sold. That don't sound too much like truckin either!
>
>Love my Vette but miss my B.
>
>Jerry
>
>Jerry Erbesfield
>Was - 73 Black beauty MGB roadster
>Now - C-5 Black Beauty Vette roadster
>E-mail: jerbesfield@mindspring.com
>Website: http://jerbesfield.home.mindspring.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Barrie Robinson [mailto:barrier@bconnex.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:07 AM
>To: Don Malling; Jerry Erbesfield; mgs@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Two Super Supercharged MGB's
>
>
>Bugatti once remarked that Bentleys were the fastest trucks
>available.  Having driven a couple of Corvettes, including Bill Brack's
>1985 model - "refined" by GM themselves, I am not sure that Bentley still
>retains the title.
>
>
>At 10:14 PM 7/22/2003 -0400, Don Malling wrote:
> >I bought two MGB parts cars from a guy who owns a Corvette restoration
> >shop. His wife drives a 73 B.
> >
> >FWIW, he commented at least three times that he had more fun driving
> >his
> >wife's B to the Watkins Glenn vintage races than he ever has in any of his
> >Corvettes.
> >
> >Maybe there's more than one way for a B to kill a Corvette :-)
> >
> >Don Malling
> >
> >
> >
> >Jerry Erbesfield wrote:
> >>Hi Albert:
> >>You got just a little carried away here, didn't you? "Corvette
> >>Killing" - NOT! I owned a B roadster myself for over 15 years until
> >>just recently. Completely rebuilt is twice myself. I am intimately
> >>familiar with them, the culture and their performance capabilities,
> >>including superchargers. Didn't buy a supercharger for MY B though.
> >>Bought a C-5 (the currently produced
> >>version) Corvette roadster instead - and let me tell you from personal
> >>experience that there is no way a B with even TRIPLE the stock MG HP
> >>would be a "Corvette Killer". I loved my Black Beauty B. It was a
> >>GREAT car, FOR WHAT IT WAS. But a Corvette killer MG's are not (and
> >>cannot be without a engine/drive train transplant and more),
> >>supercharger or not. Additionally, the stock drive train would never
> >>hold up under the power and torque of triple the HP, if you could
> >>figure a way to produce that much HP from any MG power plant. It is
> >>questionable how long an MG drive train will hold up with the 175-200
> >>HP that a well done supercharger job would produce, especially if the
> >>driver used all that HP much. If the driver is out dragging Vettes
> >>much, it sure wouldn't last very long. As far as Vipers go (500 HP
> >>stock), they can out drag a stock Vette (345 to 405 HP stock,
> >>depending on model) - and, while I can tattoo most production Porsche
> >>models that are out on the streets, there are some limited production
> >>models of it that will out drag my Vette from 0 to 60. A supercharged
> >>B IS awesome, especially to an MG aficionado - but not quite THAT
> >>awesome. Know any supercharged (MG engine) B's that might want to
> >>drag, pink slip for pink slip??? I miss my B and I'd love to get back
> >>into the MG business again!!
> >>;<)
> >>Jerry Erbesfield
> >>Was - 73 Black Beauty B roadster
> >>Now - C-5 Black Beauty Vette roadster
> >>E-mail: jerbesfield@mindspring.com
> >>Website: http://jerbesfield.home.mindspring.com
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-mgs@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net] On
> >>Behalf Of Aeseeyou@aol.com
> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:58 PM
> >>To: doddk@mossmotors.com
> >>Cc: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: Two Super Supercharged MGB's
> >>
> >>Kelvin,
> >>Thanks for all your help and participation on July 20th at our 13th
> >>Annual British Car Show at the Ventura Yacht Harbor. The Moss Motors
>display of
> >>those two Supercharged MGB's was awesome! Who'd think that the serene
> >>lil' MGB
> >>that pulls in next to you at the stop light was a Corvette Killing, Porshe
> >>eating, Viper beating beast capable of smoking them in all 4 gears. Plus
> >>I was
> >>totally blown away when you told me that build time to attach the Eaton
> >>Blower unit and all of the ancilary hardware and plumbing was well under
> >>5 hours. End result: Some of the nicest and cleanest work I've ever seen!
> >>It really
> >>looked as if it was part of the original factory or stock set-up, it was
> >>that nicely put together! I'm sure that it'd probably pass even a Highway
> >>check by a
> >>"Smoky"! I was going to ask you to kick one of the two engines over to
> >>hear what they sounded like when your Lady, Debbie drove up in the chrome
> >>bumper example of
> >>your MGB RB Killer B That answered my question far better than any
> >>explanation.."Its Undetectible" as far as I could tell and I was really
> >>listening for that tell-tale hissing and whistleing that usually gives
> >>away most turbo or supercharged cars. All in all that would be the best
> >>spent money anyone
> >>could as for. Especially nice for the "DIY" crowd with all the parts
> >>looking pleasently
> >>and professionally well done. I'd like to do a feature in the "Hooter" on
>the
> >>two Killer B's. Let me know. Fantastico! (p.s. Now I know what to ask
> >>Santa to bring me for Christmas!)
> >>Albert Escalante, Editor
> >>"THE CLEAR HOOTER"
> >>Owner of a naturally aspirated 1978 MGB
>
>Regards
>Barrie
>
>Barrie Robinson
>barrier@bconnex.net

Regards
Barrie

Barrie Robinson
barrier@bconnex.net 

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