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RE: Two Super Supercharged MGB's

To: "'Barrie Robinson'" <barrier@bconnex.net>,
Subject: RE: Two Super Supercharged MGB's
From: "Jerry Erbesfield" <jerbesfield@mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:53:48 -0400
The Corvette's LS-1 engine was developed at the expense of and first used in
light GM trucks. But that's as close at it gets! The C-5 model Vette ain't
no truck! And you know what else? The 60's era Vettes bring 30,000 to
$150,000 when sold. That don't sound too much like truckin either!

Love my Vette but miss my B.

Jerry

Jerry Erbesfield
Was - 73 Black beauty MGB roadster
Now - C-5 Black Beauty Vette roadster
E-mail: jerbesfield@mindspring.com
Website: http://jerbesfield.home.mindspring.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Barrie Robinson [mailto:barrier@bconnex.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:07 AM
To: Don Malling; Jerry Erbesfield; mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Two Super Supercharged MGB's


Bugatti once remarked that Bentleys were the fastest trucks 
available.  Having driven a couple of Corvettes, including Bill Brack's 
1985 model - "refined" by GM themselves, I am not sure that Bentley still 
retains the title.


At 10:14 PM 7/22/2003 -0400, Don Malling wrote:
>I bought two MGB parts cars from a guy who owns a Corvette restoration
>shop. His wife drives a 73 B.
>
>FWIW, he commented at least three times that he had more fun driving 
>his
>wife's B to the Watkins Glenn vintage races than he ever has in any of his 
>Corvettes.
>
>Maybe there's more than one way for a B to kill a Corvette :-)
>
>Don Malling
>
>
>
>Jerry Erbesfield wrote:
>>Hi Albert:
>>You got just a little carried away here, didn't you? "Corvette 
>>Killing" - NOT! I owned a B roadster myself for over 15 years until 
>>just recently. Completely rebuilt is twice myself. I am intimately 
>>familiar with them, the culture and their performance capabilities, 
>>including superchargers. Didn't buy a supercharger for MY B though. 
>>Bought a C-5 (the currently produced
>>version) Corvette roadster instead - and let me tell you from personal 
>>experience that there is no way a B with even TRIPLE the stock MG HP 
>>would be a "Corvette Killer". I loved my Black Beauty B. It was a 
>>GREAT car, FOR WHAT IT WAS. But a Corvette killer MG's are not (and 
>>cannot be without a engine/drive train transplant and more), 
>>supercharger or not. Additionally, the stock drive train would never 
>>hold up under the power and torque of triple the HP, if you could 
>>figure a way to produce that much HP from any MG power plant. It is 
>>questionable how long an MG drive train will hold up with the 175-200 
>>HP that a well done supercharger job would produce, especially if the 
>>driver used all that HP much. If the driver is out dragging Vettes 
>>much, it sure wouldn't last very long. As far as Vipers go (500 HP 
>>stock), they can out drag a stock Vette (345 to 405 HP stock, 
>>depending on model) - and, while I can tattoo most production Porsche 
>>models that are out on the streets, there are some limited production 
>>models of it that will out drag my Vette from 0 to 60. A supercharged 
>>B IS awesome, especially to an MG aficionado - but not quite THAT 
>>awesome. Know any supercharged (MG engine) B's that might want to 
>>drag, pink slip for pink slip??? I miss my B and I'd love to get back 
>>into the MG business again!!
>>;<)
>>Jerry Erbesfield
>>Was - 73 Black Beauty B roadster
>>Now - C-5 Black Beauty Vette roadster
>>E-mail: jerbesfield@mindspring.com
>>Website: http://jerbesfield.home.mindspring.com
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-mgs@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net] On 
>>Behalf Of Aeseeyou@aol.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:58 PM
>>To: doddk@mossmotors.com
>>Cc: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Two Super Supercharged MGB's
>>
>>Kelvin,
>>Thanks for all your help and participation on July 20th at our 13th
>>Annual British Car Show at the Ventura Yacht Harbor. The Moss Motors
display of
>>those two Supercharged MGB's was awesome! Who'd think that the serene 
>>lil' MGB
>>that pulls in next to you at the stop light was a Corvette Killing, Porshe
>>eating, Viper beating beast capable of smoking them in all 4 gears. Plus 
>>I was
>>totally blown away when you told me that build time to attach the Eaton 
>>Blower unit and all of the ancilary hardware and plumbing was well under 
>>5 hours. End result: Some of the nicest and cleanest work I've ever seen! 
>>It really
>>looked as if it was part of the original factory or stock set-up, it was 
>>that nicely put together! I'm sure that it'd probably pass even a Highway 
>>check by a
>>"Smoky"! I was going to ask you to kick one of the two engines over to 
>>hear what they sounded like when your Lady, Debbie drove up in the chrome 
>>bumper example of
>>your MGB RB Killer B That answered my question far better than any 
>>explanation.."Its Undetectible" as far as I could tell and I was really
>>listening for that tell-tale hissing and whistleing that usually gives 
>>away most turbo or supercharged cars. All in all that would be the best 
>>spent money anyone
>>could as for. Especially nice for the "DIY" crowd with all the parts 
>>looking pleasently
>>and professionally well done. I'd like to do a feature in the "Hooter" on
the
>>two Killer B's. Let me know. Fantastico! (p.s. Now I know what to ask 
>>Santa to bring me for Christmas!)
>>Albert Escalante, Editor
>>"THE CLEAR HOOTER"
>>Owner of a naturally aspirated 1978 MGB

Regards
Barrie

Barrie Robinson
barrier@bconnex.net  

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