Come on Bill, stop beating around the bush and say what you mean. John
WSpohn4@aol.com wrote:
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> Not to put too fine a point on it, Jim, but when it comes to MGs, you don't
> know what you are talking about.
> When you say that the 4 cylinder MG should not kneed an oil cooler, you are
> flat out wrong. The early 63 Bs were shipped to North America without coolers
> and were such a warranty nightmare that the factory took the less expensive
> measure of standardising an oil cooler - something that they would never have
> done had it not been necessary.
> Having raced various MG engines for (Gawd) 26 years, I can tell you first hand
> exactly what oil temps certain cooling arrangements require, (yes, I do run a
> temp gauge), and assure you that unless you are using a late model single carb
> B and not driving hard at that (thought with the late cars it is difficult to
> know whether someone is driving hard or not), you stand an excellent chance of
> cooking your oil and bearings without a cooler. I have seen everything from
> 290 deg., briefly, before slagging down the engine, while running without a
> cooler (it leaked in practice and we took it out - hey we were young and
> ambitious, if not overly cautious) to 190 deg., which is what I usually run
> with my giant Mazda rotary cooler (remember - they used oil spray on the
> inside of the rotor as a significant cooling element) on the Twinkie.
>
> I'd suggest that if your area of expertise is in the V8 converted cars, you
> might want to stick to giving advice on what you know, and not extrapolate
> into areas where it may not be valid, as was the case here.
> Each engine is a little different. I drive a daily driver with a V6 that puts
> out half again what your V8 does, and it does not require an oil cooler. Why
> some run hot and others cool, is an engineering question that I would be
> interested in hearing those with more engineering knowledge than I have,
> comment on. But let's not generalise so that some poor schmuck in Texas in
> summer thinks you know what you are talking about, and goes out with his new B
> without a cooler and turns it into Southern fried garbage. Sorry just won't do
> it in those circumstances.
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> Bill S.
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