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Subject: Re: A/C certification...
From: Max Heim <mvheim@studiolimage.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:40:55 -0700
Keith Wheeler wrote

>Jim  Carney wrote:
>
>>It is a fact that R-12 contributes to the destruction of the ozone layer.
>
>It is a fact that in chlorine radicials break down O3...but I have a few
>questions.
>
>1) how does a big molecule like R-12 make it that high up into the 
>atmosphere?
>
>2) wouldn't the hole be over, say florida (lots of airconditioners) or
>some such instead of over antartica?
>
>3) O3 is produced in the upper atmosphere by Uv (solar) radiation.
>Dooesn't it make sense for there to be a hole over someplace where
>the sun doesn't shine for months on end?
>
>4) This effect had been demonstrated for many years.  Why was it not a
>major problem until Dupont's patent for R-12 was about to run out?
>
>5) For a *very* stable molecule like R-12 to break down it requires a lot
>of energy....you guessed it, the model requires the free cholorine radicals
>to be produced by R-12 absorbing Uv!!!
>
>...so the problem is some molecule that may or may not be making its way
>to the upper atmosphere may or may not be abosrbing Uv, thereby destroying
>the O3 so that we are all going to die from too much Uv?  What?
>
>We have *no* information on the ozone layer.  Who knows if what we've seen
>in these tiny, tiny, decades means in the fluctuations of a millions of
>years old system?
>
>Politically correct knee jerk reactions do not constitute science.  Yes,
>free chlorine radicals (like what is present in the volcanic gas that
>naturally occurs in antartica) will destroy O3, but that doesn't answer
>all those questions about R-12.
>
>-Keith Wheeler
>Team Sanctuary                         http://www.teamsanctuary.com/
>
Well, since you are apparently more of an expert than any atmospheric 
chemist or NASA scientist, there isn't much point in arguing with you. 
But I would like to point out that this subject is pretty off-topic for 
the list.

Cheers


Max Heim
'66 MGB
runs great, needs paint
Palo Alto CA


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