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Re: P type springs

To: Robert Grunau <cgrunau@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: P type springs
From: "R. Zwart" <zwart@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:56:44 -0800
Cc: MG-MMM <mg-mmm@autox.team.net>, tom metcalf <mgtom@bright.net>, Andrew Fock <awfock@optushome.com.au>
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Reply-to: "R. Zwart" <zwart@earthlink.net>
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Bob,  Are you planning to check out early???????
    BOB

Robert Grunau wrote:

> Thirty years ago I bought new front springs for my TC. The front eyes were
> very poorly made and too large so the pins flopped around. I installed a
> thin roll of teflon inside the eye and this took up the slack. I thought a
> bronze bushing would be too thin and break.  I am now re-restoring the car
>  paint all cracked before ) and when I removed the front spring pins the
> teflon was still intact and in reasonable shape after 39,000 miles. Spring
> pins were a bit worn as well. So I have replaced the teflon and fitted new
> spring pins and hope to be OK for another 30 years and 39,000 miles  ( which
> should see me through!! ).
> Regards, Bob Grunau
>
> ---Original Message-----
> From: owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of tom metcalf
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:39 PM
> To: TATERRY@aol.com; mg-mmm@autox.team.net
> Cc: Andrew Fock
> Subject: Re: P type springs
>
> > 1. The pins for the front of the springs are new, however the eyes are
> worn
> > (to varying degrees). as the eyes were probably never true, how good a fit
> > should they be? Do people get the eyes relieved and put in bushes?
>
> They need to be a nice snug fit or you will wear out a nice new pair of pins
> quickly. I really like all 4 springs to be new as it really makes for a nice
> firm ride. However, if you like the originals I would have the eys bushed.
> I've seen this done and it works. Keep in mind, though, that it might not be
> a real kool fit up as the eye is a sprung loop rather than a solid chunk of
> metal being bored out. It may give a bit.
>
> > 2. The fellow who did the chassis put in brass trunnions. Anyone have
> > experience of this. (I was planning to put in phosphor bronze, but if the
> > opinion is that they are Ok then I will keep them).
>
> Bronze is certainly preferred for bushings but the brass should last for a
> while. I looked up the alloy breakdown comparing brass and bronze last week
> (for the same reason) and there really isn't that much difference.
> Professional bushing people may differ!
>
> > 3. As there is no shoulder on the pin of the rear springs, how does one do
> up
> > the nut as there is nothing to tighten it up to without clamping the
> spring?
>
> There is a hardened  spacer INSIDE the spring and against the big shoulder
> on the pin. It is shaped like a smaller version of the front spindle spacer
> inside the inner bearing. Outside the spring is another heavy spacer, like a
> 1/4" washer, hardened.
>
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Andrew
> >
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