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RE: P type springs

To: "MG-MMM" <mg-mmm@autox.team.net>, "tom metcalf" <mgtom@bright.net>
Subject: RE: P type springs
From: "Robert Grunau" <cgrunau@pathcom.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:56:47 -0400
Cc: "Andrew Fock" <awfock@optushome.com.au>
In-reply-to: <002601c1c3ee$ebb9ce20$4a9ddb42@safetyph4mgjle>
Reply-to: "Robert Grunau" <cgrunau@pathcom.com>
Sender: owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net
Thirty years ago I bought new front springs for my TC. The front eyes were
very poorly made and too large so the pins flopped around. I installed a
thin roll of teflon inside the eye and this took up the slack. I thought a
bronze bushing would be too thin and break.  I am now re-restoring the car
 paint all cracked before ) and when I removed the front spring pins the
teflon was still intact and in reasonable shape after 39,000 miles. Spring
pins were a bit worn as well. So I have replaced the teflon and fitted new
spring pins and hope to be OK for another 30 years and 39,000 miles  ( which
should see me through!! ).
Regards, Bob Grunau

---Original Message-----
From: owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of tom metcalf
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:39 PM
To: TATERRY@aol.com; mg-mmm@autox.team.net
Cc: Andrew Fock
Subject: Re: P type springs

> 1. The pins for the front of the springs are new, however the eyes are
worn
> (to varying degrees). as the eyes were probably never true, how good a fit
> should they be? Do people get the eyes relieved and put in bushes?

They need to be a nice snug fit or you will wear out a nice new pair of pins
quickly. I really like all 4 springs to be new as it really makes for a nice
firm ride. However, if you like the originals I would have the eys bushed.
I've seen this done and it works. Keep in mind, though, that it might not be
a real kool fit up as the eye is a sprung loop rather than a solid chunk of
metal being bored out. It may give a bit.



> 2. The fellow who did the chassis put in brass trunnions. Anyone have
> experience of this. (I was planning to put in phosphor bronze, but if the
> opinion is that they are Ok then I will keep them).

Bronze is certainly preferred for bushings but the brass should last for a
while. I looked up the alloy breakdown comparing brass and bronze last week
(for the same reason) and there really isn't that much difference.
Professional bushing people may differ!


> 3. As there is no shoulder on the pin of the rear springs, how does one do
up
> the nut as there is nothing to tighten it up to without clamping the
spring?

There is a hardened  spacer INSIDE the spring and against the big shoulder
on the pin. It is shaped like a smaller version of the front spindle spacer
inside the inner bearing. Outside the spring is another heavy spacer, like a
1/4" washer, hardened.


>
> Thanks
>
>
> Andrew
>
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