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Re: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet

To: <speedtimer@beyondbb.com> <speedtimer@beyondbb.com>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet
From: Wester Potter <wester6935@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:18:02 -0600
Same Ballard/Ford technology as Buckeye bullerr II.

Wes

On Sep 29, 2009, at 10:48 AM, <speedtimer@beyondbb.com> 
<speedtimer@beyondbb.com 
 > wrote:

> Didn't you guys forget Rick Byrnes and the Ford. He went 200 with a  
> hydrogen power vehicle.
> GB
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" <drmayf@mayfco.com>
> To: "LSR" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:29 AM
> Subject: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet
>
>
>> Dale Pulju sent me a note about the Buckeye Bullet setting a record  
>> of 300 + mph with Hydrogen.  Now this brings an interesting  
>> question or two. But first, I say well done to that effort!  Now  
>> the questions: they  had previously set a record using batteries.  
>> Batteries are electric storage devices. So the record was listed as  
>> an electrical record. Good enough I say. But now another record is  
>> claimed as a hydrogen record. Yet the car's drive system was  
>> electrical.  Hydrogen (actually hydrogen and oxygen mix) was used  
>> to produce electricity which powered the car.  So was the original  
>> record using batteries really a gasoline record because the  
>> batteries that supplied the power were charged via some generator?  
>> Or Nuke because the electrons came from that?  With the H2O2 and  
>> the fuel cells generating electrons I believe that the record is  
>> really an electrical one.  Think hard about this. Do the rule  
>> making authorities need new definitions of what actually powers a  
>> vehicle?  Take  a hybrid vehicle. Doesn't the gasoline motor  
>> provide most of the power? If so, why is it called a hybrid?  If I  
>> could put a gasoline powered generator in a car and use the gen  
>> power to run the electric motor that drives the wheels, would that  
>> be electrical or fossil fuel powered?  It cannot run without  
>> gasoline so is it defined as a petroleum powered car or electrical.  
>> Isn't that what a hybrid is?  Me, I think that the drive mechanism  
>> has to be primarily fueled by something directly and that should be  
>> the definition. for instance the car that Jesse James used had a  
>> true hydrogen motor. The fuel was directly powering the vehicle.   
>> The Ford Fusion and the Buckeye Bullet used electric drive to move  
>> the vehicle and I think that is electrical. Not hydrogen.
>>
>>
>> Any thoughtful comments out there? I am sitting here waiting for  
>> parts....
>>
>>
>> mayf
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