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Re: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet

To: speedtimer@beyondbb.com
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet
From: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:52:00 -0700
Not forgotten as that is the Ford Fusion I mention in the question. And 
it was not hydrogen powered. It used electric motors to drive the car.  
That is part and parcel of the question being discussed...

mayf
speedtimer@beyondbb.com wrote:

> Didn't you guys forget Rick Byrnes and the Ford. He went 200 with a 
> hydrogen power vehicle.
> GB
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" <drmayf@mayfco.com>
> To: "LSR" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:29 AM
> Subject: [Land-speed] Buckeye Bullet
>
>
>> Dale Pulju sent me a note about the Buckeye Bullet setting a record 
>> of 300 + mph with Hydrogen.  Now this brings an interesting question 
>> or two. But first, I say well done to that effort!  Now the 
>> questions: they  had previously set a record using batteries. 
>> Batteries are electric storage devices. So the record was listed as 
>> an electrical record. Good enough I say. But now another record is 
>> claimed as a hydrogen record. Yet the car's drive system was 
>> electrical.  Hydrogen (actually hydrogen and oxygen mix) was used to 
>> produce electricity which powered the car.  So was the original 
>> record using batteries really a gasoline record because the batteries 
>> that supplied the power were charged via some generator? Or Nuke 
>> because the electrons came from that?  With the H2O2 and the fuel 
>> cells generating electrons I believe that the record is really an 
>> electrical one.  Think hard about this. Do the rule making 
>> authorities need new definitions of what actually powers a vehicle?  
>> Take  a hybrid vehicle. Doesn't the gasoline motor provide most of 
>> the power? If so, why is it called a hybrid?  If I could put a 
>> gasoline powered generator in a car and use the gen power to run the 
>> electric motor that drives the wheels, would that be electrical or 
>> fossil fuel powered?  It cannot run without gasoline so is it defined 
>> as a petroleum powered car or electrical. Isn't that what a hybrid 
>> is?  Me, I think that the drive mechanism has to be primarily fueled 
>> by something directly and that should be the definition. for instance 
>> the car that Jesse James used had a true hydrogen motor. The fuel was 
>> directly powering the vehicle.  The Ford Fusion and the Buckeye 
>> Bullet used electric drive to move the vehicle and I think that is 
>> electrical. Not hydrogen.
>>
>>
>> Any thoughtful comments out there? I am sitting here waiting for 
>> parts....
>>
>>
>> mayf
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