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Re: Engine Mounts - Rubber or Solid

To: Ed Weldon <23.weldon@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Mounts - Rubber or Solid
From: drmayf <drmayf@mayfco.com>
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 08:09:34 -0700
I happen to agree with Ed. An engine vibrates a lot and each of those 
vibration pulses flexes a rigid connection. After time you get flexural 
cracking of members. And if the members and joints are painted, you are 
not likely to see of find them until someting breaks. I am a big fan of 
giving joinst between differet components some compliance or forgiveness 
to such vibrations. I use the sidewall of an old tire cut in donut 
shapes with a hole in the middle to isolate engine and tranny vibrations 
from my frame. They are about 3/8 inch thing, are pretty stiff but give 
a large degree of isolation. Remember structural flexing breaks things.

mayf, out in Pahrump with the first cuppa and my eyes still closed mostly
Ed Weldon wrote:

>OK--everybody get your tomatoes ready to throw--- engineering stuff incoming:
>I'd be inclined to be a little careful about rigid mounts unless you have some
>experience and know what you're doing.  You don't want to overconstrain things
>and end up distorting something that shouldn't be or worse yet putting an
>unnecessary load on a bearing somewhere in the drive train.  You need to deal
>with things like thermal expansion, chassis flex and just plain realistic
>levels of accuracy in building the car.  A three point rubber mount for an
>engine/trans takes care of a lot of this as does your driveshaft universals.
>The vibration isolation of the rubber comes as a bonus.
>There's an old concept in mechanical engineering getting some new play under
>the name "Minimum Constraint Design"  A Google search on this subject will
>bring up a good engineering book on the subject and some lofty discussions.
>It's probably more for engineering types than us racer-builders.  Still, if
>you're into something pretty ambitious like a +300 mph car with the attendant
>innovative design that inevitably happens it wouldn't hurt to have a good
>understanding of this subject.
> Bottom line is that a 4 legged chair won't sit right on the floor unless all
>four legs are the same length AND THE FLOOR STAYS FLAT.
>Ed Weldon




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