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RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments

To: "'Skip Higginbotham'" <saltrat@pro-blend.com>, land-speed@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments
From: "Albaugh, Neil" <albaugh_neil@ti.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:37:46 -0600
Skip;

You have good points. I agree with your assesment of the resistance wire
problems. There is also the problem of delay time-- similar to the problems
with fire sensing by thermostats, etc. I did see a couple of UV fire sensors
sell on eBay recently for only about $30, so there are some bargains to be
had if one is lucky enough to find them.

I also agree with your wanting to be able to shut off the fire bottles
manually. I'd suggest wiring a SPDT (ON- OFF- ON) switch in series with the
solenoid valve so that in the center position, the system is "OFF".  Flip
the switch to the "up" position to arm the automatic flame detector and in
the "down" position the fire bottles are manually activated. I can give you
more detail on how that would be wired if you're interested.

Regards, Neil   Tucson, AZ



-----Original Message-----
From: Skip Higginbotham [mailto:saltrat@pro-blend.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 9:09 AM
To: Albaugh, Neil; land-speed@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments


Neil,
The problem with resistance wire systems is false alarms.......not a good
idea at 300 MPH +. Too hard on the heart! And IR systems are a little
pricey for me.
Auto fire extinguishing is OK if you don't want to control the extinguisher
manually. I do. I feel like I can turn on the fire bottles until the fire
is out and if I'm not stopped yet, I can turn off the fire bottles and save
the agent for later in the shut-down if the fire relights or was not out to
begin with. Also manual control might let me breathe in the small
cockpit!!! Too subtile?
Hard to reason with a fire that is behind you though!!! Auto system might
be the best in the long run. I worry about false actuation.......
Skip



At 09:50 AM 10/30/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Skip;
>
>That's a good idea. You could probably wire that into a solenoid- operated
>valve to actuate the fire bottles automatically, too.
>
>I've seen some aircraft fire detection systems that are based on a wire
that
>changes resistance. Some of the newer flame detectors sense ultraviolet
>radiation so they aren't confused by IR heat radiation from the collectors
>or other hot spots.
>
>Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Skip Higginbotham [mailto:saltrat@pro-blend.com]
>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 5:54 PM
>To: Albaugh, Neil; land-speed@autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: Solid suspension and visibility comments
>
>
>Neil,
>I have a fire detection system in the liner/lakester. Turns a bright red
>light on in the cockpit. No false alarms yet.
>Skip

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