List,
Dont want to sound like a bad guy here, But Howard, I think the world of you so
dont take this the wrong way. In your statement, "Until someone steps up and
offers to provide the systems at no cost, most of us don't want engine
management
or traction control. In fact if it was free I would not want it." I actually
think most people dont want it because of the basic fact that they dont
understand it. With todays technology it could only benifit from it. but if you
dont understand it, know how to maintain it, or know how to run it, or how to
analyze the data from it, sure you dont want it. I think this is going towards
a
point made by some other people. If the technology is there, it makes things
safer why not use them.
Almost all modern cars use some type of traction control system, its makes
driving safer, and puts more power to the road. People drive with it everyday,
most people dont understand it but they sure like it.
Jonathan Amo
www.landracing.com
Nafzger wrote:
> Bryan,
> I don't disagree with what you said but as a guy who has personally
> financed and built two streamliners, I don't want to see it in our sport. It
> adds cost and takes control away from the driver. We have the technology
> today to run the car without a driver. Who wants that? Until someone steps
> up and offers to provide the systems at no cost, most of us don't want
> engine management or traction control. In fact if it was free I would not
> want it.
> Maybe we need to form an organization of old fashioned traditionalist fuddy
> duddy racers like me and Tom who want to build and drive our own stuff
> without all this outside stirring about high technology. One group for
> racers and one group for technocrats.
> If that doesn't start a riot, then I have lost my touch
> Howard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan A. Savage Jr" <basavage@earthlink.net>
> To: "Dan" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> Cc: "land speed" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Lessman Streamliner
>
> > Dan, what Dave is saying is that traction control can be made part
> > of the engine management system. The program only needs two
> > data inputs, RPM and time. Nothing else, no wheel sensors ....
> > nothing ...
> > F-1 has found it impossible to enforce this rule.
> > I think SCTA would be wise to make the traction control rule
> > match reality and delete all references to it.
> > There is NO way the rule can be enforced where engine management
> > systems are allowed.
> > That's the reality.
> >
> > Bryan Savage
> >
> >
> > Dave Dahlgren wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan can I test a car with traction control although not go for any
> particular
> > > record?? i have programmed this feature on many cars and it is quite
> safe and
> > > does not use the brakes to accomplish the comtrol, or the throttle or
> anything
> > > else that takes all final control away from the driver in any way.
> Basically it
> > > just makes the engine produce less power if the wheels are spinning.
> > > Dave Dahlgren
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