I had the engine on White Heat checked via ATF last year and did not have a
problem with the head gasket afterwards...spun the engine to spray oil
everywhere afterwards too...my engine uses the stock Felpro gasket and the
block is o-ringed with .040 stainless wire.
At 01:13 PM 12/17/00, you wrote:
>Woops, I failed to mention that I used a copper gasket + O-ring,
>so my experience is probably meaningless.
>Bryan
>
>Joe Amo wrote:
> >
> > Tom, DITTO HERE, checked our bike with hydraulic atf method, next
> run bye bye
> > head gasket. Joe
> >
> > Tom Neimeyer wrote:
> >
> > > I have heard of the P&G pump and wonder why it was not used on our
> > > motorcycle last year? Instead we got to fill it with automatic
> transmission
> > > fluid. On the next run we blew the head gasket in that cylinder. We
> tried
> > > to "wash", "blow" and clean out all the ATF. I have heard this is common
> > > (blowing head gasket on cylinder checked with ATF) any thoughts about
> this?
> > >
> > > Regards, Tom
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>
> > > To: "Chuck Rothfuss" <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>;
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 2:38 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Rotarys
> > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > > The P&G "pump" is a transparent cylinder with a free piston in
> it. It
> > > > is plumbed to a spark plug hole, the intake and exhaust valves are
> > > disabled
> > > > and the engine turned over with the starter. Air going in and out
> of the
> > > > cylinder bumps an O ring to indicate maximum travel. Volume is directly
> > > read
> > > > by calibrations on the side of the cylinder. Several possibilities for
> > > error
> > > > exist, air temperature, piston and O-ring to wall friction in the
> > > measuring
> > > > cyl and rotational speed. Dan measures the cylinder temp and apples a
> > > > correction factor but the other two are hard to keep constant. That
> is why
> > > > for engines within 3% of the max or min they require direct
> measurement.
> > > > Hope that was helpful.
> > > > Jim in Palmdale who at any minute has to give up the computer to his
> > > > granddaughter
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>
> > > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 10:13 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Rotarys
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dave, List,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've offered to provide pieces to be measured by ECTA
> officials, and
> > > > have
> > > > > explained repeatedly the futility, as Dave mentioned, of trying
> to alter
> > > > the
> > > > > factory dimensions. (making an expensive tear-down to measure one
> of my
> > > > > engines unnecessary) All seems to rest with the SCTA rules
> commitee, as
> > > > the
> > > > > ECTA rules mirror what is established by the senior organization.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not familiar enough with the P&G ("pumping") equipment,
> that is
> > > now
> > > > > apparently available on both coasts, to understand how testing is
> > > > conducted.
> > > > > Can someone shed some light on this, and the potential use of such
> > > > equipment
> > > > > on a rotary? Since we are comparing the breathing capability of
> engines
> > > > > this certainly seems like a fair way to compare them.
> > > > >
> > > > > As a non-engineer I figure out most things by simply fumbling
> around
> > > > and
> > > > > experimenting with things til I get it right. (I call it "FUN") If I
> > > have
> > > > > to run down someone with "pumping" equipment and "pump" one of my
> nice
> > > > tight
> > > > > 13B's I'd be happy to do that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chuck Rothfuss
> > > > > ECTA
John Robinson, Mechanician
Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
1513 University Ave.
Madison, Wi. 53706
608-262-3606
FAX 608-265-2316
Current World Land Speed Record Holder
Bonneville Salt Flats
H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
131.333 MPH set 1995
136.666 MPH set 1996
140.292 MPH set 2000
144.396 MPH set 2000
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