Actually I believe the F-1 cars had a turbo, or two, blowing into a
supercharger which fed the engine. Made about 10 HP per cid. Don't think
your typical SB Chevy could handle 3,500 HP.
John Beckett
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; "Richard Fox"
<v4gr@rcn.com>; "Mike Jenkins" <MikeJ@speedrecordclub.softnet.co.uk>; "LSR
List" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: compounding
> I thought the F1 cars just used dual turbos, both
> fed directly into the intake manifold.
> Compounding is one turbo feeding into the second,
> so that the second on is already picking up
> significantly boosted charge. If I remember
> right, the Germans experimented a lot with turbo
> compounding on fighter planes in late 1944 and
> early 1945.
>
> Dick J
>
> --- John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm definitely missing something here. I was
> > thinking that turbo compounding
> > was using two or more turbos to forces more air
> > in the engine. Thought the
> > F-1 cars did this in the 80's.
> >
> > John Beckett
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Fox" <v4gr@rcn.com>
> > To: "Mike Jenkins"
> > <MikeJ@speedrecordclub.softnet.co.uk>; "LSR
> > List"
> > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: cooling
> >
> >
> > > Dan Warriner; This sounds good. What do you
> > think the board will say? Rich
> > > PS will this be legal in Vintage categories?
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mike Jenkins
> > <MikeJ@speedrecordclub.softnet.co.uk>
> > > To: LSR List <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: cooling
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hmm, a turbo-compound LSR vehicle! Don't
> > think I've ever heard of one
> > being
> > > >mooted before. Would it run as blown or as a
> > turbine, or both? The only
> > > >proposed motor sport application that I've
> > ever heard of was back in the
> > > mid
> > > >'80s when AustinRover were considering
> > developing one for their Metro 6R4
> > > >Rally car for its Group 'S' life but the
> > class was banned before it
> > began.
> > > >
> > > >There was a development programme in the
> > '50s on a marine turbo-compound
> > > >engine over here in Britain based on the
> > Napier Deltic engine. Not only
> > did
> > > >it almost double the power output of the
> > engine but it also had a system
> > of
> > > >'afterburning' for short-periods where very
> > high power was required. This
> > > >worked by squirting more fuel and air into
> > the exhaust system upstream of
> > > >the turbine, and gave an almost unbelievable
> > increase in power - from
> > > memory
> > > >it was another 60 or 70 percent! Now that
> > would be difficult to legislate
> > > >for in the rules!!
> > > >
> > > >Mike Jenkins
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Richard Fox <v4gr@rcn.com>
> > > >To: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
> > > >Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:52 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: cooling
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Joe; well that's a concern, although I
> > have worked on lots of twin
> > > >ignition
> > > >> engines of large size with plugs on
> > opposite sides of cylinders. Even
> > > >flown
> > > >> long distances over water using such a
> > system. I also liked the
> > > >> Turbo-compound feature of the 3350 Wright
> > Cyclone. Dan is that legal?.
> > > >Rich
> > > >> Fox
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
> > > >> To: Richard Fox <v4gr@rcn.com>
> > > >> Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
> > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > >> Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 08:57 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: cooling
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >Are you trying to create detonation
> > ? Just curious,
> > sounds
> > > >> >dangerous to me
> > > >> >Joe ( I can show you how to bend rods)
> > Amo :)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Richard Fox wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I have been trying to send this for
> > awhile, maybe it will work this
> > > >time.
> > > >> >> I'm making chips doing a billet
> > aluminum head for my 32 Plymouth.
> > > >> Converting
> > > >> >> back to "L" head. I plan no water
> > jacket mostly because its easier
> > > that
> > > >> way.
> > > >> >> My thought is there is no exhaust
> > passage in the head and it will
> > have
> > > >16
> > > >> >> fins 1/8 thick by 3/4 tall with 3/8
> > gaps between them. Any input on
> > > >this
> > > >> >> plan, informed or otherwise, is
> > encouraged. Also I will be using two
> > > 10
> > > >> mm
> > > >> >> sparkplugs one in the normal place next
> > to the exhaust valve and one
> > > >over
> > > >> >> the bore. Thought it would be
> > interesting to vary the timing between
> > > >them
> > > >> to
> > > >> >> see what happens. I am sure all of this
> > was done 50 years ago but it
> > > >> keeps
> > > >> >> me busy. Rich Fox
> > > >> >> -----Original MessageCc:
> > land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > >> >> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > >> >> Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 05:18 AM
> > > >> >> Subject: Re: cooling
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >I don't often weigh in on the tech
> > stuff, but we had Ed Pink give
> > us
> > > >> some
> > > >> >> >input to this cooling deal. Ed states
> > that you can't have too much
> > > >> water,
> > > >> >> >all nooks and cranies must be filled
> > to avoid any chance of hot
> > spots
> > > >> which
> > > >> >> >can lead to detonation. We currently
> > use two 12 volt pumps at the
> > > >water
> > > >> >> >tank. The ouput of these pumps feed
> > into a sprint car centrifugal
> > > pump
> > > >> >> >driven off the crank. There is a
> > thermostat in the line also to aid
> > > in
> > > >> >> >keeping the temp constant.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Dan (real cool) Warner
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >----- Original Message -----
> > > >> >> >From: John Beckett
> > <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > >> >> >To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; Land
> > Speed List
> > > >> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > >> >> >Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:13 PM
> > > >> >> >Subject: Re: cooling
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> Now here is an interesting bit of
> > info: A good standard water
> > pump
> > > >> flows
> > > >> >> >> about 100 gpm, a NASCAR pump flows
> > 180 gpm. The best electric
> > pump
> > > I
> > > >> have
> > > >> >> >> found flows only about 30 gpm.
> > > >> >> >> So now if your flow starts off at
> > thirty gpm it ain't gonna be
> > > >> anywhere
> > > >> >> >near
> > > >> >> >> close to the 35 gpm needed at the
> > exit point.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> John Beckett, LSR #79,
> > > >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> >> >> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> > > >> >> >> To: "John Beckett"
> > <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; "Land Speed
> > > List"
> > > >> >> >> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > >> >> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 9:12
> > AM
> > > >> >> >> Subject: Re: cooling
> > > >> >> >>
> >
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>
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