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Re: New Category

To: <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: New Category
From: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 05:22:30 -0700
Doug,

I didn't mean to imply that some one new will immediately jump to this new
opportunity. I am told that an early GM "carcass" may be purchased for
$200 - 300 in some areas of the country. These cars were made in numbers
that they will never be collectible and are throw aways as such. I would
think that this would be a good starting point for a race car if you were
inclined, I am not. While you have had tremendous success with what some
would term "low tech" equipment, and be criticized for using same. What is
the problem with restricting someone else from using the same type of
mechanical? The "pill & pump" guys may not have interest at all in using
EFI. Would you be of the same frame of mind if Ron Main was running Modified
Roadster with his engines?

I enjoy the banter on the list a lot. I don't think the postings from you
and Dave Dahlgren will change the mind of the people who want to see this go
forward, I may be wrong. This being America, vote you preferences at the
ballot box.

Just to clear the water - I have no personal interest in either the current
Modified Category as it applies to coupes & sedans or the proposed category.
If, God willing, I do move on to another car it will be something in the
Special Construction category. Of course the vehicle will NOT incorporate
rear steering.
----- Original Message -----
From: <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>
To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: New Category


> In a message dated 09/11/2000 4:07:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> dwarner@electrorent.com writes:
>
> << Doug,
>
>  Thank you for your input. While your observation has valid points I see
the
>  opposite side. The current Modified Category has a year break of 51
years,
>  this increases annually. While someone may have picked a '53 Stude to
begin
>  their LSR career in 1970 it is now obvious that the vehicle is at a
>  disadvantage. Why not open an area for this person to run his car? He may
>  have a couple of sons that want to join us. As their interests and 'need
for
>  speed' develop over a period of time they(the sons) will surely build a
>  car/bike to meet the demands of increased speed and challenges. I believe
>  that by adding under 50 classes we may be increasing the involvement in
our
>  beloved sport by younger generations which we all admit we need to
attract.
>
>  Dan Warner
>   >>
> Dan,
>     I agree with regards the older "modern" cars as defined by the present
> rules. A class change will make many "older" race cars competitive that
are
> at a disadvantage by todays rules, hopefully getting them back into
> competition, possibly in the hands of the next generation of LSR
competitors.
>     Beyond those cars that could be "recycled" into competitive form by
> additional classes I see little value in additional classes. If someone
new
> is getting into LSR today and didn't have access to an "older" race car
they
> would tend to start from scratch with one of the better aerodynamic
designs.
>     Maybe I'm wrong, but if you're starting from scratch, building a LSR
car
> based on a production body/chassis, isn't the initial "carcass" cost of
> anything 1975 to the early 90's pretty constant? It seems that the
> "carcass"cost of a 1949-75 production car to use in LSR would be high due
to
> the demand among restorers and street rodders for these cars.
>     I haven't gone back and reviewed all of the previous postings on the
> subject, so I may have my cutoff dates wrong. I do believe, however, that
I
> have a pretty good handle on what the rule change is trying to accomplish.
>     Regards the electronics and equipment restrictions on the proposed
> classes, that's all pretty much over my head. I just run a homemade set if
IR
> injectors, a 1950's Vertex mag, and no sensors or other data gathering
> equipment. My concession to "high-tech" is my weather station and a
hand-held
> calculator to interpolate "pill" changes and density altitude.
>     Please explain your thoughts regards the next generation of LSR
> competitors being inhibited by the present rules and encouraged by more
> classes. Other than recycling an LSR car handed down by their predecessors
I
> can't figure how the proposed rule change would encourage them. Maybe I'm
> missing something.
>     As you know, my son Brian is now taking an active part in my LSR
program,
> setting records in my XXF/MR at Muroc and Bonneville this year. Keeping
him
> motivated and involved is one of my goals............Ardun Doug King,
#1313
> XXF/MR
>


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