You gotta love the deveristy here....( yeah another way of saying I
disagree )
( operator and mechanical experience in aircraft for 20yrs ... if it weren't
for Solenoids the Apache couldn't shoot a spit wad )
On the end of the day.... there are guys like Skip and I who run Multiple
Battery systems on seperate and dual circuts... I can picture in my mind how
to build the Dual Morse Cable Battery cut off...(simialiar to a dual
Parachute handle ) and I am thinking that there is as much Probabity of
failure of that system as there is with a Constant duty solenoid.... Or I
could simplify my life and be like almost everyone else and run the single
Battery. But I was liking the innovation of my system.
Interesting though.... I have seen a Bunch of these Morse cables at my Local
boat shop.... seems when one end breaks off they pitch them and install a
new one.... So if anyone wants a Quality Parachute cable those are out there
at your Local boat shop Free for the Asking....
Keith...( all pictures in my mind are in Crayons )
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Manghelli <mmanghel@hughes.net>
To: Glen Barrett <speedtimer@earthlink.net>; Steve Pitt
<steve@seattleconstructioninc.com>
Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: Cut off switch
> Glen,
>
> You are correct about varied vehicles, that is why after a long discussion
> during the rules meeting it was decided to leave the rule a bit open.. (I
> know many of you would argue about this not being the best, but after an
> hour...) I have been on the scene of many incidents at Bonneville, El
> Mirage and Muroc. The most scary thing for me as a safety member is to
roll
> to the scene and have electric fuel pumps still running with the lines
> ripped off of them, it was fear for both myself and the guy still in the
car
> that made me champion this rule.
>
> While the idea of solenoids sounds like an ideal fix, I must agree with
the
> comments from the list about failures. After spending 10 years working
with
> Aircraft and ground support electrical systems I would not suggest
solenoids
> as the answer.
>
> The best idea is the Morse cable used in the pull fashion. Mount the
switch
> close to the battery if you can. Keep those good ideas coming!
>
> Mike Manghelli
> SCTA Prez
> Lancaster, CA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glen Barrett <speedtimer@earthlink.net>
> To: Steve Pitt <steve@seattleconstructioninc.com>
> Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Cut off switch
>
>
> >The problem with our type of racing is there are not two cars alike. Each
> is as
> >design of its own except for most stock bodied vehicles, all others are
> special
> >construction and require a different approach.
> >Glen
> >
> >Steve Pitt wrote:
> >
> >> A local group involved in vintage sports car racing require emergency
> >> switches on all cars. They don't specifically identify a location but
> say
> >> it should be "easily accessible" and clearly marked. The majority of
> these
> >> cars have the switch mounted at the real because that is usually where
> the
> >> battery is located. I would think that a single location for all cars
> makes
> >> the most sense and that the I.D. marking should be consistent, say a 6"
> (?)
> >> diameter painted red circle around the switch. This would at least
> >> guarantee some consistency in emergency situations.
> >> Steve in rainy, wet Seattle
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: owner-land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> > [mailto:owner-land-speed@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Glen Barrett
> >> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 4:15 PM
> >> > To: land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> > Subject: Cut off switch
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > One thing all need to remember regardless of where the switch is
> mounted
> >> > and identified with a decal or whatever, a fire or a panel can be
torn
> >> > off in an incident and making it difficult to locate. The emergency
> crew
> >> > at the lakes and on the salt spend time in the inspection area to
look
> >> > over all of the cars, streamlined bikes and any thing unusual that
may
> >> > create a rescue problem.
> >> >
> >> > The big thing that we have to cope with is distance we need to
travel
> >> > to the incident as we don't have the man power or equipment that
large
> >> > and big budget racing associations have.
> >> >
> >> > The program we have the, Emergency Response Team is a group of
regular
> >> > volunteers that work together and learn from all incidents and try to
> >> > incorporate all we can from the experiance into our rescue trailer.
> >> > There is no easy answer to the mounting of a switch or if a tank
should
> >> > be in a steel container or the placement of a water tank in or
outside
> >> > of the drivers area.
> >> >
> >> > The main thing is to put yourself in the position of the rescue teams
> >> > and the patrols and fire personnel that will be there to extract the
> >> > driver from the vehicle involved in a incident. Just things to think
> >> > about.
> >> > Glen
>
>
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