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Re: Muroc

To: Joe Timney <joetimney@dol.net>
Subject: Re: Muroc
From: "Thomas E. Bryant" <saltracer@awwwsome.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:51:44 -0800
Joe, 

I have been running the Lakes since 1955, I have seen nothing that the
dust won't stick to. As Doug said, water alone will not remove the dust,
not even a hot water pressure washer, it has to be hand washed. At least
that is my experience. We use "Pride" on the Lexan windshield to help
keep it from scratching during cleaning, the dust still sticks to it
though. Actually the salt is easier to remove from a vehicle than lakes
dust. Of course, if you don't get it all the dust off, it doesn't really
hurt anything but the appearance. We all know what the salt does!

Tom, Redding 9:50AM PST
#216 D/FCC

Joe Timney wrote:
> 
> Doug,
> 
> You mentioned that the dust clings to everything...If you have Lexan 
>windshield,
> has anyone tried to use some type of anti-stat spray cleaner to minimize the
> build-up?
> 
> joe from very cold Delaware
> 
> DOUG ODOM wrote:
> 
> > John; You have full windshield I believe. If so you can vent some air
> > from the base of the windshield (like a defroster). First you might want
> > to try this. Tape a couple of small pieces of yarn to the inside of your
> > windshield and see if you have dead air on the inside. The darn stuff is
> > like talc powder and just clings to everything.Another trick is to
> > Velcro to the back of one of your gloves something like a powder puff if
> > your visor likes to dust up.
> >         What size throttle body did you try? I'm still trying to figure out
> > what I'm going to need.
> >                         Doug Odom by the pacific ocean
> >
> > John Beckett wrote:
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > We run a 23 deg set up, guess combustion takes longer than with the 18
> > > degree heads. Anyway we found a nice Weiand tunnel ram base that is 
>perfect
> > > for our EFI system. Not to happy with the adapter plate I made for the
> > > throttle bodies, but will be using a different top this year and
> > > considerably larger TB's as well.
> > >
> > > The price sure seems right on the SFS injection. I couldn't find if they
> > > have data logging or not, which I really like.
> > >
> > > John Beckett, ECTA/BNI #79
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net>
> > > To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > Date: Thursday, January 13, 2000 10:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Your car
> > >
> > > >John, Sorry to take so long between notes. Very busy!! My friends that
> > > >run 18* chevys told me they had the best hp with only about 30* timing.
> > > >So that is where we started. After the first run and we were over 200mph
> > > >I was not going to take a chance of messing up till I can dyno it and
> > > >find what it really likes. What intake did you use or make for your
> > > >injection? I'm going to make one like a sheet metal type. The efi I'm
> > > >working with is from SDS. You can look at sdsefi.com and see what they
> > > >have. There is a lot of information on that site and you can down load
> > > >the whole thing. I hope to get this done for Muroc, but if not  I'll run
> > > >my old carb. The record for E/ms is real low.
> > > > Doug
> > > >
> > > >John Beckett wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>     Doug
> > > >>
> > > >>     We weren't very conservative with our tune-up 42 deg. timing, etc.
> > > Had a
> > > >> good cam but still felt down on HP. Finally realized the air flow to 
>the
> > > EFI
> > > >> was insufficient...just part of the learning curve of a new EFI
> > > >> system...best run was 205 MPH. As a last ditch effort to understand 
>what
> > > was
> > > >> going on we bolted on a 1000 cfm Holley and ran the 213 MPH. Had a push
> > > rod
> > > >> and rocker part company, above 8,000 RPM, on the return run and 
>managed a
> > > >> 201 on seven cylinders.
> > > >>     So we know the potential is there, just have to get everything to
> > > work
> > > >> as designed. Have made some major changes to the EFI manifold to 
>improve
> > > the
> > > >> air flow, also the valve train will be replaced for more durable 
>pieces.
> > > At
> > > >> that point I believe we can run a 225 MPH.
> > > >>     Your car being 1,000 lbs. lighter might pick up another 3 to 5 MPH
> > > above
> > > >> mine.
> > > >>     What type of EFI are you going to run this year?
> > > >>     Talk to Mayf about the NACA duct, sizing, etc. he has a bunch of 
>Aero
> > > >> experience. Mine was extremely successful. Will use two more when we
> > > switch
> > > >> to turbo's.
> > > >>     Will you be going to Muroc in June?
> > > >>
> > > >>     John Beckett, Asheville, NC
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: DOUG ODOM <popms@thegrid.net>
> > > >> To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > >> Cc: LAND-SPEED <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > >> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2000 12:27 AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: Your car
> > > >>
> > > >> >John, I didn't build the car with any weight in mind, so after I got 
>it
> > > >> >done I weighed it. Between 500 and 550 each wheel. For now just going 
>to
> > > >> >run the E motor. I'm going to build a fuel injection (efi) to try and
> > > >> >reduce the drag. The motor was just finished the day before we left 
>for
> > > >> >B-ville. Was conservitive with the tune up 30* timing and 30 yr. old
> > > >> >carb.
> > > >> > Doug Odom in Arroyo Grande, Ca.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >John Beckett wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>     Doug
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>     I get confused during the chat's too. Everything happening so
> > > fast. I
> > > >> >> don't type fast either. And some times answers don't come when you
> > > >> expect.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>     Wanted to ask you more about your beautiful little E/MS. Can't
> > > >> believe
> > > >> >> you get by with only 2100 lbs.. wow. Would think that would allow 
>for
> > > >> some
> > > >> >> rapid acceleration if it hooks up. On our best run with the E/GCC we
> > > went
> > > >> >> through the 1/4 at 192 MPH and finished the five at 213 MPH. What 
>size
> > > >> >> engine and fuel injection (mechanical or EFI) are you going to use
> > > this
> > > >> >> year?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>     John Beckett,
> > > >> >>     West, NC

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