That works for me, but it seems like it could be abit
complicated when you start thinking about how it would work with the present
vintage classes. Kvach
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From: John Beckett[SMTP:landspeedracer@email.msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 6:01 AM
To: Keith Turk; Beth Butters; land-speed@autox.team.net
Subject: Nastalgia class
Without upsetting anybody...we already have a vintage category (i.e.
Nostalgia) on page 49 of the SCTA rule book. Now it may need to be revamped
or updated...perhaps up the year from pre-49 to pre-59...or add a few engine
classes...add your ban on trubo's and computers and your there without
really adding a whole new category.
John Beckett
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
To: Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net>; dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com
<dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
<land-speed@autox.team.net>; 'joe boogie' <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class
>Hey Kvack..... Lets kick the class around here on the list.... see what we
>can come up with..... Maybe this list can come up with something worth
while
>long term....
>
>Personally I don't think the 1970 limit is the right one.... Personally I
>like the 1980 or before.... American cars didn't get that much smaller
these
>years and honestly my 80 Camaro and the 53 Stude are about the same size
>car.... (both Bricks in disguise)
>
>I doubt my car would qualify as I am going to update the Fuel system this
>year.. but when I sell the car sure would be nice if someone could race it
>competitively.... Keith
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net>
>To: <dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>; 'joe boogie'
><boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 1:08 AM
>Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class
>
>
>> Proposal for Nostalgia classification for Land Speed Racing at
Bonniville
>Salt Flats. Intent: to preserve the diversity of vehicles in competition.
>> Rules for classification "N" nostalgia All
>classifications and safety requirements are the same as currently in use
>including any changes made in the future by SCTA/BNI for competition at
>Bonniville. For cars to be eligible for records in "N" class they must
>use automobile bodies built before 1970. All modifications allowed by SCTA
>for the various classifications are allowed except the use of electronic
>engine controls. Class records will be initially filled with current or
>past record holders with the fastest record in their various classes that
>meet the requirements for "N" class status. This is what I think is
>needed to keep the old cars running on the salt and not be pushed out of
>the arena by much more aerodynamic cars. This could be accomplished
without
>the electronic restriction but I doubt if it would be quit as successful
>and wouldn't preserve the sight and sounds that so many of us lust for at
>Bonniville. If you agree with th!
>> is or a variation of this please submit a request to the timing stand at
>future SCTA/USFRA sanctioned meets and If the proposal has merit and enough
>support I'm sure it will be discussed at future rules committee meetings.
>Thanks for bearing with me on this and give it some thought. L. Kvach
>Butters #1392 BBG/Alt-CC Studebaker
>> ----------
>> From: joe boogie[SMTP:boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 9:59 AM
>> To: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; land-speed@autox.team.net
>> Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way
>>
>> Doug @ Radon:
>>
>> I was'nt "whining" READ what I said.
>>
>> I was simply calling a spade a spade. I've been around long
enough
>> in this racing game to know what's what, what's happened, and what will
>> happen. I have developed my opinions based on real world observations in
>the
>> last 35 years fooling with cars, racing and motorcycles.
>> I was advocating fair separation between the new technology and
>the
>> older '50s & '60s technology many people enjoy fooling around with.
>> Bonneville is not only about speed, but tradition as well....How many
will
>> want to run a beautiful '32 ford coupe body for example if they know they
>> will have EFI new tech Firebirds in their class? To "bomb" their records?
>> That will effectively put the nails in the coffin of traditional body
>styles
>> as they have been for fifty years or more. There's room for everybody in
>> this game. Let's just try to make sure it stays that way OK?
>>
>> You too are also fully entitled to your opinions and will
doubtless
>> change them as time goes on, just as I and most everyone else does as the
>> years rattle on past us.
>>
>> ...best regards, Doug in NY 12:45pm edt Dec 3
>>
>>
>> BTW: I have seen your car and it is KILLER. Keep up the good work.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com
>> >To: boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com,land-speed@autox.team.net
>> >Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way
>> >Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:59:59 -0500
>> >
>> >what is this "unfairness" whining all about ??? - just go out and race
>YOUR
>> >CAR YOUR WAY - who cares if the other guy in your class has some
>> >electronics on his ride - big deal - if you chose not to run electronics
>> >then be glad youre allowed to choose - if you choose electronics / knife
>> >switch / flathead / dumptruck / nitro tfx / weedwhacker or whatever
>> >technology that turns you on then just drive it in the class it fits in
>and
>> >chill out and quit worrying about having special class designations
>because
>> >some other guy is monitoring his exhaust with an o2 sensor and youre
not.
>> >if youre so threatened that some guy has some miracle electronics thats
>> >gonna blow your doors off then step up to the plate and get them
yourself
>> >or quit whining about having your personally tailored handicapped class
>so
>> >no one gets an advantage on you and drive it your way.
>> >
>> >regards
>> >doug @ black radon engineering
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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