I know we just went down this road... but Kvach has a point....
and each of us has an opinion...
To get a class Like Fuel Modified sports we have to have three competitors
who would like to run it.... Okay fair enough... my thoughts were to
solidify they basic goals of the class outside of the current classes
available.
Sounds like we are talking about a NO ELECTRONICS class.... which really is
an interesting thought.... like do I have to run a MAG? and does the Tach
have to be mechanical? wow don't sound like a class I want to enter... but
hey that is my option....
the comment here was to help decide what the rules for this New Class would
be... not to kill the folks that might have an interest in it.... Know what
I mean Vern.... Time to remember we be here about Fun not head bashing...
Keith
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> From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: Nostalgia class
> Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 9:47 AM
>
> Just another thought here...but if were thinking of banning
electronic
> fuel injection and turbochargers...lets go all the way and ban electronic
> ignition, electric fuel pumps, electric water pumps as well. If it wasn't
> built before 1959 it won't be acceptable for Nostalgia class.
>
> John Beckett
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
> To: Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net>; dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com
> <dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> <land-speed@autox.team.net>; 'joe boogie' <boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 3:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class
>
>
> >Hey Kvack..... Lets kick the class around here on the list.... see what
we
> >can come up with..... Maybe this list can come up with something worth
> while
> >long term....
> >
> >Personally I don't think the 1970 limit is the right one.... Personally
I
> >like the 1980 or before.... American cars didn't get that much smaller
> these
> >years and honestly my 80 Camaro and the 53 Stude are about the same size
> >car.... (both Bricks in disguise)
> >
> >I doubt my car would qualify as I am going to update the Fuel system
this
> >year.. but when I sell the car sure would be nice if someone could race
it
> >competitively.... Keith
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net>
> >To: <dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>; 'joe
boogie'
> ><boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 1:08 AM
> >Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way Nastalgia class
> >
> >
> >> Proposal for Nostalgia classification for Land Speed Racing at
> Bonniville
> >Salt Flats. Intent: to preserve the diversity of vehicles in
competition.
> >> Rules for classification "N" nostalgia All
> >classifications and safety requirements are the same as currently in
use
> >including any changes made in the future by SCTA/BNI for competition at
> >Bonniville. For cars to be eligible for records in "N" class they
must
> >use automobile bodies built before 1970. All modifications allowed by
SCTA
> >for the various classifications are allowed except the use of electronic
> >engine controls. Class records will be initially filled with current
or
> >past record holders with the fastest record in their various classes
that
> >meet the requirements for "N" class status. This is what I think is
> >needed to keep the old cars running on the salt and not be pushed out
of
> >the arena by much more aerodynamic cars. This could be accomplished
> without
> >the electronic restriction but I doubt if it would be quit as successful
> >and wouldn't preserve the sight and sounds that so many of us lust for
at
> >Bonniville. If you agree with th!
> >> is or a variation of this please submit a request to the timing stand
at
> >future SCTA/USFRA sanctioned meets and If the proposal has merit and
enough
> >support I'm sure it will be discussed at future rules committee
meetings.
> >Thanks for bearing with me on this and give it some thought. L. Kvach
> >Butters #1392 BBG/Alt-CC Studebaker
> >> ----------
> >> From: joe boogie[SMTP:boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 9:59 AM
> >> To: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com; land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way
> >>
> >> Doug @ Radon:
> >>
> >> I was'nt "whining" READ what I said.
> >>
> >> I was simply calling a spade a spade. I've been around long
> enough
> >> in this racing game to know what's what, what's happened, and what
will
> >> happen. I have developed my opinions based on real world observations
in
> >the
> >> last 35 years fooling with cars, racing and motorcycles.
> >> I was advocating fair separation between the new technology
and
> >the
> >> older '50s & '60s technology many people enjoy fooling around with.
> >> Bonneville is not only about speed, but tradition as well....How many
> will
> >> want to run a beautiful '32 ford coupe body for example if they know
they
> >> will have EFI new tech Firebirds in their class? To "bomb" their
records?
> >> That will effectively put the nails in the coffin of traditional body
> >styles
> >> as they have been for fifty years or more. There's room for everybody
in
> >> this game. Let's just try to make sure it stays that way OK?
> >>
> >> You too are also fully entitled to your opinions and will
> doubtless
> >> change them as time goes on, just as I and most everyone else does as
the
> >> years rattle on past us.
> >>
> >> ...best regards, Doug in NY 12:45pm edt Dec 3
> >>
> >>
> >> BTW: I have seen your car and it is KILLER. Keep up the good work.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: dferguso@ebmail.gdeb.com
> >> >To: boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com,land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> >Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way
> >> >Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:59:59 -0500
> >> >
> >> >what is this "unfairness" whining all about ??? - just go out and
race
> >YOUR
> >> >CAR YOUR WAY - who cares if the other guy in your class has some
> >> >electronics on his ride - big deal - if you chose not to run
electronics
> >> >then be glad youre allowed to choose - if you choose electronics /
knife
> >> >switch / flathead / dumptruck / nitro tfx / weedwhacker or whatever
> >> >technology that turns you on then just drive it in the class it fits
in
> >and
> >> >chill out and quit worrying about having special class designations
> >because
> >> >some other guy is monitoring his exhaust with an o2 sensor and youre
> not.
> >> >if youre so threatened that some guy has some miracle electronics
thats
> >> >gonna blow your doors off then step up to the plate and get them
> yourself
> >> >or quit whining about having your personally tailored handicapped
class
> >so
> >> >no one gets an advantage on you and drive it your way.
> >> >
> >> >regards
> >> >doug @ black radon engineering
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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