You are getting my attention! I guess I'll have to try a manual trans
sometime to see for myself. We also ate up several Powerglides and a
couple of 700R-4's before we found out that the destruction came on
coasting down not under power. I installed a pump system to give oil
circulation while pushing and shutting down and have been hauling a
spare around for three years now without needing it. I won't leave it
home, though.
Tom, Redding CA 10AM PST
John Beckett wrote:
>
> Group
>
> Here's a little story. The first two years I ran at Bonneville, running
> on Tom Bryant's record then, I had a T-400 in the car and we ran consistent
> 201's. Also eat up three of those indestructible transmissions in the
> process. So the third year we put in a 3-speed from a junkyard
> Maverick...had to try something...lots of junkyard parts in my car...no high
> dollar stuff here. Anyway rolled off the trailer in '92 and ran 212 MPH. Now
> how much HP is 11 MPH worth at that speed? I calculate it to be over 50
> HP...lost through the automatic. It was a big success for us as we actually
> set a record that year. But to finish the story...took it to Moultrie later
> that year and blew second gear on the concrete. Put in another trans...junk
> yard again...and promptly blew second at Maxton this time. A little
> difference in traction from salt to concrete...ya think. The only option
> left was to go for a beefy 4-speed...and there ain't none to be found in the
> junkyards this time. Did find this Top Loader rebuilt but still cheep
> enough...and have been using it ever since. It was several years before I
> but the "D" motor back in the car to use with the 4-speed...but when I did
> it ran a best of 219 MPH...because it accelerated better due to less RPM
> drop between gear shifts.
>
> So back to your question Dave. First off use a push start. Second keep
> the ratios as close as possible. I've never been able to hook up a low first
> gear at Bonneville anyway...always wind up short shifting to keep it
> straight. I currently have ratios of 2.32, 1.69, 1.21, 1.0 and this first
> gear is still to low. When you can't put all your power through all your
> gears your not accelerating as fast as possible anyway, which will
> ultimately effect the top speed. Remember were talking 1 to 5 MPH here. The
> other thing is to keep the torque multiplication going on a long as possible
> with low RPM drops between shifts.
>
> I have been running the Ford Top Loader with no ratio options. A racing
> T-10 has a few options the best being a 2.43, 1.46, 1.18, 1:1 and a 2.42,
> 1.34, 1.13, 1:1 but both being very hard to find, but not impossible.
>
> Now the Tex Racing T-101 on the other hand has a huge variety of ratios.
> Combinations you wouldn't believe, from a 1.43 first to a .86 OD gear if you
> want. This trans has a new 3.5" centerline that helps make it tons stronger
> than even the Jerico...which I understand Kugal broke in '98. And with a new
> gear tooth profile and low inertia eats very little HP. Guess what I'm
> putting in my car for 2000? If anyone is interested in one of these T-101's
> contact me off list.
>
> Keep in mind as Ed VanScoy mentioned the 5 and 6-speed's generally
> aren't rated for the HP many of us run on the Salt and especially at Maxton
> where the traction puts more load on the driveline.
>
> Last but not least, If you don't use reverse take it out.
>
> One passing thought. For all the money I spent on the three T-400's and
> the two 3-speeds, plus spares, I could have bought a new 4-speed and been
> way ahead of the game. Low tech doesn't necessarily mean low dollar in the
> long run.
>
> John Beckett
> Still have two Bonneville records left.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Haller <dhaller@techline.com>
> To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; Dick Jurkowski
> <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; Nsmcafee@aol.com <Nsmcafee@aol.com>;
> land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 8:52 PM
> Subject: Re: 4 speed
>
> >Hey John,
> >How about sharing some ideas on four speeds and the best gearing for them
> to
> >run at the salt. I run one but need some education on better gear
> >combinations to max my little hot rod,
> >thanks,
> >Dave Haller #93 C/GALT
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> >To: Dick Jurkowski <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; <Nsmcafee@aol.com>;
> ><land-speed@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 10:11 AM
> >Subject: Re: 4 speed
> >
> >
> >> OK Dick,
> >>
> >> Now that you've asked. I've set records with 2-speeds, 3-speeds and
> >> 4-speeds. There are lots of factors that effect your transmission choice.
> >> Length of course, engine HP and internal HP loss. As an example a 2-speed
> >> isn't a great choice for a one mile run at Maxton but works sufficiently
> >> well on the five miles of Bonneville. Believe it or not LSR is just a
> long
> >> drag race. Having the right number of gears and gear ratios is important
> >for
> >> exceleration...and exceleration does have some effect on top end
> >> speeds...not huge but probably in the 1 to 5 MPH range.
> >>
> >> Having said all that, it's my belief that you can also overdo it too.
> >Don't
> >> forget it takes HP to run the trans...automatics are horrible...but
> >> overdrives are less than ideal (some worse than other) also. Keith wants
> >to
> >> run a Richmond 6-speed in his Camaro this year. Well I'll bet him a
> buffet
> >> dinner at the Stateline that he goes as fast or faster, at Bonneville,
> >with
> >> a properly geared 4-speed as he can with the six speeder. I'm getting
> >hungry
> >> just thinking about it.
> >>
> >> I'm also working on a super close ratio 4-speed for the Chevette in 2000.
> >>
> >> John Beckett
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dick Jurkowski <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> >> To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; Nsmcafee@aol.com
> >> <Nsmcafee@aol.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> >> Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 11:42 AM
> >> Subject: Re: 4 speed
> >>
> >>
> >> >Say John, speaking of four speeds -Why? Aren't
> >> >you fully wound out long before you reach the
> >> >clocks? I just ran across a 3spd overdrive for a
> >> >flathead. Is that something I should consider?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--- John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> Add a 4-speed and a Quickchange and you can
> >> >> run any of the four LSR
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >=====
> >> >Dick J in East Texas
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