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Re: fire bottles

To: <kturk@ala.net>, "Chuck Rothfuss" <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>,
Subject: Re: fire bottles
From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:13:54 -0500
        Hey stainless would be the ideal material for a salt car. But if you 
think
aluminum is made of Unobtainium price stainless. If you do find a cheep
price let us all know.

JB




 At 07:05 AM 3/11/99 -0800, Keith Turk wrote:
>
>well since the aluminum seems to be made out of Unobtainium... I may have
>to find some steel... another option.. I like Gregs suggestion of
>Stainless... don't know where to find it yet.. but I will look about
>today....
>
>Keith
>----------
>> From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
>> To: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: Fw: another long day
>> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 4:56 AM
>> 
>> Only problem with steel is it's reaction to salt. Not that alumium
>doesn't
>> too, but it's not as bad as that rust.
>> 
>> JB
>> 
>> At 07:53 PM 3/10/99 -0500, Chuck Rothfuss wrote:
>> >Gents,
>> >
>> >  I've gotto make a couple observations about the use of aluminum tube
>for
>> >fire system plumbing.  Aluminum may be light and easy to work with, but
>it's
>> >also prone to being squashed.  How many times have you been working on
>the
>> >car when you bang things around inside your car?  Helmets, tools, heavy
>fuel
>> >cans, the occasional lawn chair.  Doesn't take much to smash an aluminum
>> >tube enough that it wouldn't allow free halon flow. 
>> >
>> >  I know you can't be that concerned about weight to not go with 1/4"
>steel
>> >tubing, or even -4 braided steel.  Both of these are a lot better suited
>to
>> >the real world inside our cars.  1/4" steel tubing is cheap too at under
>$20
>> >for 25 feet.  
>> >
>> >  If you really must have 1/4" aluminum tubing I can probably find you
>an
>> >aircraft supplier at work tomorrow, but it will be a bit more than $20
>for a
>> >25' roll.  Pegasus (800-688-6946) should have all the fittings you need.
>> >
>> >  Hope this helps.
>> >
>> >Chuck "What was that noise?" Rothfuss
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >At 01:35 PM 3/10/99 -0500, John Beckett wrote:
>> >>Let us know if you find the 1/4" aluminum tube and fittings.
>> >>
>> >>JB
>> >>
>> >>At 10:58 AM 3/10/99 -0800, Keith Turk wrote:
>> >>>well if I look real close and use my imagination.... I might be
>capable of
>> >>>justifying a little leak in the Manifold Gasket... I hate this part...
>the
>> >>>guessing thing .... there was so little water in the oil that none was
>> >>>standing.... just came out a little milky... I was running Kendall
>which
>> >>>may account for it not separating as easily... something about ash..
>Hell I
>> >>>don't remember what the engine builder said... but he was going to
>pressure
>> >>>test the block today and that should help...answer the question....
>> >>>
>> >>>gotta go find me some aluminum 1/4 inch tubing for the new fire
>system... 
>> >>>
>> >>>Keith Turk 
>> >>>Austin Healey 100  /  Bugeye / Box Sprite / Bonneville Land Speed
>Racer
>> >>>Camaro ( D Gas Altered )
>> >>>
>> >>>----------
>> >>>> From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
>> >>>> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; land-speed@autox.team.net
>> >>>> Subject: Re: Fw: another long day
>> >>>> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 7:03 AM
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Sorry to here about the water. The best laid plans of mice and men,
>and
>> >>>all
>> >>>> that stuff. At least you have another motor to step up to. Maybe
>you'll
>> >>>get
>> >>>> lucky and find a head problem. You were going to change those
>anyway,
>> >>>right.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> JB
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> At 06:22 PM 3/9/99 -0800, Keith Turk wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >yeah.. and today wasn't one I would call a record day.... found
>some
>> >>>water
>> >>>> >in the oil of the C motor I was going to run in a couple of weeks
>..
>> >>>> >pulled it out to put the new heads and cam on it... damn sam....
>> >>>couldn't
>> >>>> >find a gasket problem... so we are going to the Local motor shop to
>> >>>check
>> >>>> >it out... not good...
>> >>>> >I am worried about it having froze this winter... not likely but
>> >>>> >possible... we don't have that many cold days here but the few we
>had
>> >>>could
>> >>>> >have been deadly... hmmm  Oh well it doesn't really matter other
>then I
>> >>>had
>> >>>> >this great plan put together.... now it is all up in the air... You
>> >>>gotta
>> >>>> >love it... 
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >----------
>> >>>> >> From: V4GR@aol.com
>> >>>> >> To: kturk@ala.net
>> >>>> >> Subject: Re: another long day
>> >>>> >> Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 9:47 AM
>> >>>> >> 
>> >>>> >> In '78 we were running on a 103mph record or something like that.
>I
>> >>>had
>> >>>> >my 32
>> >>>> >> five window stock roof with a 270 GMC and 2 Corvair turbos.
>Didn't
>> >>>cost
>> >>>> >much
>> >>>> >> and went 158 one way. My Vega has run in BGas/Alt with a fourbbl
>460
>> >>>Ford
>> >>>> >> (198) and a more expensive 455 Pontiac ( not mine-208 mph) and
>now
>> >>>with a
>> >>>> >392
>> >>>> >> which is given parts from a boat racer who stepped up to a KB and
>swap
>> >>>> >meet
>> >>>> >> stuff. No new parts and I expect it might run around 200. No
>records
>> >>>> >there.
>> >>>> >> Jack Costallas liner is so slick that I think my Nissan V6 in his
>car
>> >>>> >should
>> >>>> >> be ok. We are hoping for 260 on a 220 record. We'll see. He went
>332
>> >>>with
>> >>>> >a
>> >>>> >> 302 sbc using a 4bbl manifold and 4 Quadjet secondary butterflies
>for
>> >>>his
>> >>>> >own
>> >>>> >> injectors.
>> >>>> >> We all plan this so well we should be able to phone in results,
>and
>> >>>BNI
>> >>>> >mail
>> >>>> >> out trophies. But no, we have to see what happens on the salt.   
>    
>> >>> 
>> >>>> >See
>> >>>> >> you there              Rich Fox
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> 
>> 
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