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To: "Gregory W. Gillette" <gillette@aiinc.com>,
Subject: fire system plumbing
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:39:15 -0800
you know at some point we might want to send somebody to the archives to
research.. oh say Fire system plumbing... to do this we might want to keep
the Subject area correct to the topic at hand... this is a suggestion.. I
now know tons more then I did this morning on the subject... thanks to all
of you and my local Air Conditioning supply store who thinks I am a
NuT>>>>> Personally I think there are still types of plumbing we haven't
keyed on... but I am satisfied that I have enough knowledge to go out and
make a terrible mess of my fire system....or have a nice time and make it
come out semi Pretty... I am almost scared to admit that I was wiring the
gages in tonight....

Keith Turk 
Austin Healey 100  /  Bugeye / Box Sprite / Bonneville Land Speed Racer
Camaro ( D Gas Altered )
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> From: Gregory W. Gillette <gillette@aiinc.com>
> To: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Fw: another long day
> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 6:30 PM
> 
> good point, chuck.
> 
> yeah, go the 1/4" stainless route.  it looks better too.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>
> To: land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 16:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: another long day
> 
> 
> >Gents,
> >
> >  I've gotto make a couple observations about the use of aluminum tube
for
> >fire system plumbing.  Aluminum may be light and easy to work with, but
> it's
> >also prone to being squashed.  How many times have you been working on
the
> >car when you bang things around inside your car?  Helmets, tools, heavy
> fuel
> >cans, the occasional lawn chair.  Doesn't take much to smash an aluminum
> >tube enough that it wouldn't allow free halon flow.
> >
> >  I know you can't be that concerned about weight to not go with 1/4"
steel
> >tubing, or even -4 braided steel.  Both of these are a lot better suited
to
> >the real world inside our cars.  1/4" steel tubing is cheap too at under
> $20
> >for 25 feet.
> >
> >  If you really must have 1/4" aluminum tubing I can probably find you
an
> >aircraft supplier at work tomorrow, but it will be a bit more than $20
for
> a
> >25' roll.  Pegasus (800-688-6946) should have all the fittings you need.
> >
> >  Hope this helps.
> >
> >Chuck "What was that noise?" Rothfuss
> >
> >
> >
> >At 01:35 PM 3/10/99 -0500, John Beckett wrote:
> >>Let us know if you find the 1/4" aluminum tube and fittings.
> >>
> >>JB
> >>
> >>At 10:58 AM 3/10/99 -0800, Keith Turk wrote:
> >>>well if I look real close and use my imagination.... I might be
capable
> of
> >>>justifying a little leak in the Manifold Gasket... I hate this part...
> the
> >>>guessing thing .... there was so little water in the oil that none was
> >>>standing.... just came out a little milky... I was running Kendall
which
> >>>may account for it not separating as easily... something about ash..
Hell
> I
> >>>don't remember what the engine builder said... but he was going to
> pressure
> >>>test the block today and that should help...answer the question....
> >>>
> >>>gotta go find me some aluminum 1/4 inch tubing for the new fire
system...
> >>>
> >>>Keith Turk
> >>>Austin Healey 100  /  Bugeye / Box Sprite / Bonneville Land Speed
Racer
> >>>Camaro ( D Gas Altered )
> >>>
> >>>----------
> >>>> From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
> >>>> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> >>>> Subject: Re: Fw: another long day
> >>>> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 7:03 AM
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry to here about the water. The best laid plans of mice and men,
and
> >>>all
> >>>> that stuff. At least you have another motor to step up to. Maybe
you'll
> >>>get
> >>>> lucky and find a head problem. You were going to change those
anyway,
> >>>right.
> >>>>
> >>>> JB
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 06:22 PM 3/9/99 -0800, Keith Turk wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >yeah.. and today wasn't one I would call a record day.... found
some
> >>>water
> >>>> >in the oil of the C motor I was going to run in a couple of weeks
..
> >>>> >pulled it out to put the new heads and cam on it... damn sam....
> >>>couldn't
> >>>> >find a gasket problem... so we are going to the Local motor shop to
> >>>check
> >>>> >it out... not good...
> >>>> >I am worried about it having froze this winter... not likely but
> >>>> >possible... we don't have that many cold days here but the few we
had
> >>>could
> >>>> >have been deadly... hmmm  Oh well it doesn't really matter other
then
> I
> >>>had
> >>>> >this great plan put together.... now it is all up in the air... You
> >>>gotta
> >>>> >love it...
> >>>> >
> >>>> >----------
> >>>> >> From: V4GR@aol.com
> >>>> >> To: kturk@ala.net
> >>>> >> Subject: Re: another long day
> >>>> >> Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 9:47 AM
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> In '78 we were running on a 103mph record or something like that.
I
> >>>had
> >>>> >my 32
> >>>> >> five window stock roof with a 270 GMC and 2 Corvair turbos.
Didn't
> >>>cost
> >>>> >much
> >>>> >> and went 158 one way. My Vega has run in BGas/Alt with a fourbbl
460
> >>>Ford
> >>>> >> (198) and a more expensive 455 Pontiac ( not mine-208 mph) and
now
> >>>with a
> >>>> >392
> >>>> >> which is given parts from a boat racer who stepped up to a KB and
> swap
> >>>> >meet
> >>>> >> stuff. No new parts and I expect it might run around 200. No
records
> >>>> >there.
> >>>> >> Jack Costallas liner is so slick that I think my Nissan V6 in his
> car
> >>>> >should
> >>>> >> be ok. We are hoping for 260 on a 220 record. We'll see. He went
332
> >>>with
> >>>> >a
> >>>> >> 302 sbc using a 4bbl manifold and 4 Quadjet secondary butterflies
> for
> >>>his
> >>>> >own
> >>>> >> injectors.
> >>>> >> We all plan this so well we should be able to phone in results,
and
> >>>BNI
> >>>> >mail
> >>>> >> out trophies. But no, we have to see what happens on the salt.
> >>>
> >>>> >See
> >>>> >> you there              Rich Fox
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 

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