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I seem to recall that chromed spokes fell out of favor because the plating
process made them more brittle and susceptible to breakage.
On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 4:05=E2=80=AFPM <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Like Mike, I have very rarely broken a spoke. I have a 59 BT7 with 48
> spoke painted wheels. I am only the second owner, knew the first owner
> well and have had the car for 50 years. I ran the original wheels until
> 2008 at which point I replaced all 5, mainly for peace of mind as I was
> worried about metal fatigue. I only have had them trued once, sometime i=
n
> the late 70s. In all that time I can only ever remember having three
> spokes break on me, all on the original set of wheels.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Kahn via Healeys
> *Sent:* December 22, 2024 2:44 PM
> *To:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing
>
>
>
> Hendrix believes they were older chrome spokes. As I have broken spokes
> often in the past, I have a Harbor Freight tire remover rig. Over the
> years, I have replaced spokes with stainless so I believe their strength
> puts excess train on the chrome ones. I think I have now replaced 80% of
> the chrome ones on that wheel. I don't drive hard or drive during pot hol=
e
> season. However, going to CHW on interstate 5, I hit many "uneven"
> construction areas with considerable jolts. Usually, I have only had to
> replace one spoke ever year or two. Outer spokes are easy and I have neve=
r
> had to replace the inner shorter ones.
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 22, 2024 10:04 AM
> *To:* Richard Kahn <tahoehealey@hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>; BJ8 Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing
>
>
>
> I'm intrigued to hear of your broken spoke issue. I haven't experienced
> even 1 broken spoke for many many years. Do you have any insight as to th=
e
> cause? It's something that I would very much like to avoid.
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> On Sun., Dec. 22, 2024, 12:52 p.m. Richard Kahn, <tahoehealey@hotmail.com=
>
> wrote:
>
> Hendrix has done my wheels (and break drums) for 20 years. No shakes!
> Price is very fair but shipping is the killer. I came home from Californi=
a
> Healey Week in San Louis Obispo last summer with 7 broken spokes. $250 fo=
r
> shipping wheel with tires to Hendrix. Allens work, with balance, truing
> wheels and re shaving tires was about $125 and $125 for shipping back. Wh=
en
> I needed new tires two years ago, they are sent direct to Hendrix
> overnight. He is very fast. The UPS, not so much. As I live in snow
> country, I have a very short driving season so speed is important to me.
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of sbyers---
> via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 21, 2024 5:42 PM
> *To:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99m fortunate to live relatively close to Allen Hendrix at
> Hendrixwirewheel (about 240 miles) and he has done all my wheel and tire
> work for 40 years. He does the spoke truing, balancing, and shaving and,
> as his website says, he =E2=80=9Ctakes the shake out=E2=80=9D. For sure.
>
> I know some folks send their wheels to him for the service:
> www.hendrixwirewheel.com
>
> Don=E2=80=99t know what we=E2=80=99ll do when he decides to hang it up.
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Salter
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 21, 2024 3:17 PM
> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing
>
>
>
> As I mentioned elsewhere what is shown is all very well for new wheels
> with new tyres however, in my experience, all wire wheels tend to go out =
of
> round over the years, probably because of uneven spoke tension when
> originally built, and once that occurs no amount of balancing will resolv=
e
> things.
>
> The only solutions are:
>
> 1.Buy new wheels and tyres again. (Expensive)
>
> 2. Remove the tyres and have the wheels "trued" [an advanced skill], stri=
p
> and repaint then remount new tyres, (Expensive and time consuming)
>
> 3. Shave the tyres as they are on the wheel. ( Inexpensive and remarkably
> effective).
>
> 4. Put up with the scuttle shake.
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> On Sat., Dec. 21, 2024, 2:17 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> FYI ...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJD3NYLtqiLM
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I see=
m to recall that chromed spokes fell out of favor because the plating proce=
ss made them more brittle and susceptible to breakage.</div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 4:05=E2=80=AFPM <<a href=3D"mailto:m.g.sh=
arp@sympatico.ca">m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg430023844040572720=
3"><div lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"m=
_4300238440405727203WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Like Mike, I have very rarely b=
roken a spoke.=C2=A0 I have a 59 BT7 with 48 spoke painted wheels.=C2=A0 I =
am only the second owner, knew the first owner well and have had the car fo=
r 50 years.=C2=A0 I ran the original wheels until 2008 at which point I rep=
laced all 5, mainly for peace of mind as I was worried about metal fatigue.=
=C2=A0 I only have had them trued once, sometime in the late 70s.=C2=A0 In =
all that time I can only ever remember having three spokes break on me, all=
on the original set of wheels.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11p=
t;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Cheers, Mirek<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-=
serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;=
border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);p=
adding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D=
"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Healeys=
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">he=
aleys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Kahn via H=
ealeys<br><b>Sent:</b> December 22, 2024 2:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Salt=
er <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michael=
salter@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healey=
s@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Su=
bject:</b> Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Hendrix believes =
they were older chrome spokes. As I have broken spokes often in the past, I=
have a Harbor Freight tire remover rig. Over the years, I have replaced sp=
okes with stainless so I believe their strength puts excess train on the ch=
rome ones. I think I have now replaced 80% of the chrome ones on that wheel=
. I don't drive hard or drive during pot hole season. However, going to=
CHW on interstate 5, I hit many "uneven" construction areas with=
considerable jolts. Usually,=C2=A0I have only had to replace one spoke eve=
r year or two. Outer spokes are easy and I have never had to replace the in=
ner shorter ones.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div class=3D"MsoNormal" al=
ign=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"98%" ali=
gn=3D"center"></div><div id=3D"m_4300238440405727203divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-se=
rif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:=
Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"> Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:micha=
elsalter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br><b=
>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 22, 2024 10:04 AM<br><b>To:</b> Richard Kahn &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tahoehealey@=
hotmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>; BJ8 Healeys =
<<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank">sbyers@ec.rr.com<=
/a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing</span> <u></u><u></u>=
</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I'm intrigued to hear of your broken spoke is=
sue. I haven't experienced even 1 broken spoke for many many years. Do =
you have any insight as to the cause? It's something that I would very =
much like to avoid. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">M<u></u><u></u></p></div=
></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">On Sun., Dec. 22, 2024, 12:52 p.m. Richard Kahn, <<a href=3D=
"mailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tahoehealey@hotmail.com<=
/a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;=
border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:blac=
k">Hendrix has done my wheels (and break drums) for 20 years. No shakes! Pr=
ice is very fair but shipping is the killer. I came home from California He=
aley Week in San Louis Obispo last summer with 7 broken spokes. $250 for sh=
ipping wheel with tires to Hendrix. Allens work, with balance, truing wheel=
s and re shaving tires was about $125 and $125 for shipping back. When I ne=
eded new tires two years ago, they are sent direct to Hendrix overnight. He=
is very fast. The UPS, not so much. As I live in snow country, I have a ve=
ry short driving season so speed is important to me.<u></u><u></u></span></=
p></div><div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:cente=
r"><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"98%" align=3D"center"></div><div id=3D"m_4300238=
440405727203x_m_-1423956104130198334divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"=
>From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
if;color:black"> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of s=
byers--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, Decemb=
er 21, 2024 5:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Healeys' <<a href=3D"mailto:h=
ealeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing</span> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p><span=
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt">I=E2=80=99m fortunate to live rela=
tively close to Allen Hendrix at Hendrixwirewheel (about 240 miles) and he =
has done all my wheel and tire work for 40 years.=C2=A0 He does the spoke t=
ruing, balancing, and shaving and, as his website says, he =E2=80=9Ctakes t=
he shake out=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 For sure.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt">I know som=
e folks send their wheels to him for the service:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://w=
ww.hendrixwirewheel.com" target=3D"_blank">www.hendrixwirewheel.com</a></sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:11pt">Don=E2=80=99t know what we=E2=80=99ll do when he dec=
ides to hang it up.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11=
pt">Steve Byers</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt">BJ8 Registry</span><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
11pt">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fon=
t-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><di=
v style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top=
:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p><b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Sa=
lter<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 21, 2024 3:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob =
Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspid=
ell@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u><=
/u></span></p></div><p><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<div><p><span lang=3D"EN-US">As I=C2=A0 mentioned elsewhere what is shown i=
s all very well for new wheels with new tyres however, in my experience, al=
l wire wheels tend to go out of round over the years, probably because of u=
neven spoke tension when originally built, and once that occurs no amount o=
f balancing will resolve things.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US">The only solutions are:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p><span lang=3D"EN-US">1.Buy new wheels and tyres again. (Expensive)<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=3D"EN-US">2. Remove the tyres =
and have the wheels "trued" [an advanced skill], strip and repain=
t then remount new tyres, (Expensive and time consuming)<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div><div><p><span lang=3D"EN-US">3. Shave the tyres as they are on =
the wheel. ( Inexpensive and remarkably effective).<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p><span lang=3D"EN-US">4. Put up with the scuttle shake.<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p><span lang=3D"EN-US">M<u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
v></div><p><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p=
><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Sat., Dec. 21, 2024, 2:17 p.m. Bob Spidell via Hea=
leys, <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1=
pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"=
><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">FYI ...<br><br><a hre=
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