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Like Mike, I have very rarely broken a spoke. I have a 59 BT7 with 48 spoke
painted wheels. I am only the second owner, knew the first owner well and
have had the car for 50 years. I ran the original wheels until 2008 at
which point I replaced all 5, mainly for peace of mind as I was worried
about metal fatigue. I only have had them trued once, sometime in the late
70s. In all that time I can only ever remember having three spokes break on
me, all on the original set of wheels.
Cheers, Mirek
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Richard Kahn via
Healeys
Sent: December 22, 2024 2:44 PM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing
Hendrix believes they were older chrome spokes. As I have broken spokes
often in the past, I have a Harbor Freight tire remover rig. Over the years,
I have replaced spokes with stainless so I believe their strength puts
excess train on the chrome ones. I think I have now replaced 80% of the
chrome ones on that wheel. I don't drive hard or drive during pot hole
season. However, going to CHW on interstate 5, I hit many "uneven"
construction areas with considerable jolts. Usually, I have only had to
replace one spoke ever year or two. Outer spokes are easy and I have never
had to replace the inner shorter ones.
_____
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2024 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing
I'm intrigued to hear of your broken spoke issue. I haven't experienced even
1 broken spoke for many many years. Do you have any insight as to the cause?
It's something that I would very much like to avoid.
M
On Sun., Dec. 22, 2024, 12:52 p.m. Richard Kahn, <tahoehealey@hotmail.com
Hendrix has done my wheels (and break drums) for 20 years. No shakes! Price
is very fair but shipping is the killer. I came home from California Healey
Week in San Louis Obispo last summer with 7 broken spokes. $250 for shipping
wheel with tires to Hendrix. Allens work, with balance, truing wheels and re
shaving tires was about $125 and $125 for shipping back. When I needed new
tires two years ago, they are sent direct to Hendrix overnight. He is very
fast. The UPS, not so much. As I live in snow country, I have a very short
driving season so speed is important to me.
_____
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2024 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing
I'm fortunate to live relatively close to Allen Hendrix at Hendrixwirewheel
(about 240 miles) and he has done all my wheel and tire work for 40 years.
He does the spoke truing, balancing, and shaving and, as his website says,
he "takes the shake out". For sure.
I know some folks send their wheels to him for the service:
www.hendrixwirewheel.com <http://www.hendrixwirewheel.com>
Don't know what we'll do when he decides to hang it up.
Steve Byers
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2024 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing
As I mentioned elsewhere what is shown is all very well for new wheels with
new tyres however, in my experience, all wire wheels tend to go out of round
over the years, probably because of uneven spoke tension when originally
built, and once that occurs no amount of balancing will resolve things.
The only solutions are:
1.Buy new wheels and tyres again. (Expensive)
2. Remove the tyres and have the wheels "trued" [an advanced skill], strip
and repaint then remount new tyres, (Expensive and time consuming)
3. Shave the tyres as they are on the wheel. ( Inexpensive and remarkably
effective).
4. Put up with the scuttle shake.
M
On Sat., Dec. 21, 2024, 2:17 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys,
FYI ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD3NYLtqiLM
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Like Mike, I have very rarely broken a spoke. I have =
a 59 BT7 with 48 spoke painted wheels. I am only the second owner, =
knew the first owner well and have had the car for 50 years. I ran =
the original wheels until 2008 at which point I replaced all 5, mainly =
for peace of mind as I was worried about metal fatigue. I only =
have had them trued once, sometime in the late 70s. In all that =
time I can only ever remember having three spokes break on me, all on =
the original set of wheels.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'>Cheers, Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys =
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Kahn =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> December 22, 2024 2:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] WW =
Balancing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Hendrix believes =
they were older chrome spokes. As I have broken spokes often in the =
past, I have a Harbor Freight tire remover rig. Over the years, I have =
replaced spokes with stainless so I believe their strength puts excess =
train on the chrome ones. I think I have now replaced 80% of the chrome =
ones on that wheel. I don't drive hard or drive during pot hole season. =
However, going to CHW on interstate 5, I hit many "uneven" =
construction areas with considerable jolts. Usually, I have only =
had to replace one spoke ever year or two. Outer spokes are easy and I =
have never had to replace the inner shorter =
ones.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"98%" =
align=3Dcenter></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>F=
rom:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Michael Salter <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><b=
r><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 22, 2024 10:04 AM<br><b>To:</b> Richard =
Kahn <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com";>tahoehealey@hotmail.com</a>><b=
r><b>Cc:</b> Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>>; =
BJ8 Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";>sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I'm intrigued to hear of your broken spoke issue. I =
haven't experienced even 1 broken spoke for many many years. Do you have =
any insight as to the cause? It's something that I would very much like =
to avoid. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>M<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sun., Dec. 22, 2024, 12:52 p.m. Richard Kahn, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com";>tahoehealey@hotmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Hendrix has done =
my wheels (and break drums) for 20 years. No shakes! Price is very fair =
but shipping is the killer. I came home from California Healey Week in =
San Louis Obispo last summer with 7 broken spokes. $250 for shipping =
wheel with tires to Hendrix. Allens work, with balance, truing wheels =
and re shaving tires was about $125 and $125 for shipping back. When I =
needed new tires two years ago, they are sent direct to Hendrix =
overnight. He is very fast. The UPS, not so much. As I live in snow =
country, I have a very short driving season so speed is important to =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"98%" =
align=3Dcenter></div><div =
id=3D"x_m_-1423956104130198334divRplyFwdMsg"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>F=
rom:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of =
sbyers--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> =
Saturday, December 21, 2024 5:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Healeys' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] WW Balancing</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I’m fortunate to live =
relatively close to Allen Hendrix at Hendrixwirewheel (about 240 miles) =
and he has done all my wheel and tire work for 40 years. He does =
the spoke truing, balancing, and shaving and, as his website says, he =
“takes the shake out”. For sure.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I know some folks send their wheels to him =
for the service: <a href=3D"http://www.hendrixwirewheel.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">www.hendrixwirewheel.com</a></span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Don’t know what we’ll do when he =
decides to hang it up.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Steve Byers</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>BJ8 Registry</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Healeys =
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 21, 2024 3:17 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys =
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] WW Balancing</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p><span =
lang=3DEN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span lang=3DEN-US>As =
I mentioned elsewhere what is shown is all very well for new =
wheels with new tyres however, in my experience, all wire wheels tend to =
go out of round over the years, probably because of uneven spoke tension =
when originally built, and once that occurs no amount of balancing will =
resolve things. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span =
lang=3DEN-US>The only solutions =
are:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=3DEN-US>1.Buy new =
wheels and tyres again. =
(Expensive)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=3DEN-US>2. =
Remove the tyres and have the wheels "trued" [an advanced =
skill], strip and repaint then remount new tyres, (Expensive and time =
consuming)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=3DEN-US>3. =
Shave the tyres as they are on the wheel. ( Inexpensive and remarkably =
effective).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=3DEN-US>4. Put =
up with the scuttle shake.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span =
lang=3DEN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span =
lang=3DEN-US>M<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p><span =
lang=3DEN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p><span =
lang=3DEN-US>On Sat., Dec. 21, 2024, 2:17 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, =
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
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...<br><br><a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJD3NYLtqiLM"; =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJD3NYLtqiLM</a><br>__=
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