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Re: [Healeys] Downpipes

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Downpipes
From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 09:01:29 -0700
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Thanks, Michael.

Sounds like you have an 'oversized' exhaust; I think the original system 
is 1.75" (that's what AHS says theirs is). I'd hope a header would give 
a couple more HP.

Bob

On 9/19/2024 8:50 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> Hi Bob, after searching in vain for a company in NA I finally found a 
> company in Christchurch New Zealand who were able to bend some 2" 
> exhaust tube to exactly the correct shape based on the original 
> drawings of which I have a copy. To that pipe I TIG welded a new 
> flange, which I had flame cut, and a section of flex pipe of the 
> correct type but made from stainless steel. The whole process was a 
> little expensive but this has been on my BN1 for 10 years and many 
> thousands of miles.
> I had the need to remove it this summer and the flex is as flexible as 
> it was when installed and serving its purpose admirably and the mild 
> steel tubing has still got some of the high temperature paint on it.
> I'm not a brilliant welder but I certainly managed to produce a very 
> satisfactory weld.
>
> M
>
>
> On Wed., Sep. 18, 2024, 10:36 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, 
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Listers,
>
>     The exhaust downpipes for both 4- and 6-cyl cars have a section of
>     flexible tubing before the connection to the muffler. I've always
>     assumed this was to allow for the rocking of the engine, and the fact
>     the system is affixed with fairly rigid hangers (at least, until the
>     rubber part disintegrates). I've also heard the flexpipe is to allow
>     easier fitment from the downpipe to the muffler, which won't
>     necessarily
>     be perfectly aligned. Of course, both reasons could be true.
>
>     I'm asking the knowledge-based, LLM model List because I'm
>     considering
>     an aftermarket header from AH Spares for my BN2/100M. The repop down
>     pipe I have now is malformed, and the clutch pedal arm comes in
>     contact
>     with it at full clutch pedal, and I've heard this is common in the
>     repops (yes, I could just bash the downpipe, but that would be
>     tacky and
>     sometimes that can cause a ticking noise, which would annoy me even
>     more). But, the AHS pipe doesn't have the section of flexpipe so I'm
>     wondering if it's really needed. I have a TIG and I'm not terrible
>     with
>     it, but the header and, presumably the flex tubing are SS, which
>     I'm not
>     practiced in welding.
>
>     Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>     Bob
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    Thanks, Michael.<br>
    <br>
    Sounds like you have an 'oversized' exhaust; I think the original
    system is 1.75" (that's what AHS says theirs is). I'd hope a header
    would give a couple more HP.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/19/2024 8:50 AM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">Hi Bob, after searching in vain for a company in
        NA I finally found a company in Christchurch New Zealand who
        were able to bend some 2" exhaust tube to exactly the correct
        shape based on the original drawings of which I have a copy. To
        that pipe I TIG welded a new flange, which I had flame cut, and
        a section of flex pipe of the correct type but made from 
        stainless steel. The whole process was a little expensive but
        this has been on my BN1 for 10 years and many thousands of
        miles. 
        <div dir="auto">I had the need to remove it this summer and the
          flex is as flexible as it was when installed and serving its
          purpose admirably and the mild steel tubing has still got some
          of the high temperature paint on it.</div>
        <div dir="auto">I'm not a brilliant welder but I certainly
          managed to produce a very satisfactory weld. </div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">M</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed., Sep. 18, 2024, 10:36
          p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, &lt;<a
            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc 
solid;padding-left:1ex">Listers,<br>
          <br>
          The exhaust downpipes for both 4- and 6-cyl cars have a
          section of <br>
          flexible tubing before the connection to the muffler. I've
          always <br>
          assumed this was to allow for the rocking of the engine, and
          the fact <br>
          the system is affixed with fairly rigid hangers (at least,
          until the <br>
          rubber part disintegrates). I've also heard the flexpipe is to
          allow <br>
          easier fitment from the downpipe to the muffler, which won't
          necessarily <br>
          be perfectly aligned. Of course, both reasons could be true.<br>
          <br>
          I'm asking the knowledge-based, LLM model List because I'm
          considering <br>
          an aftermarket header from AH Spares for my BN2/100M. The
          repop down <br>
          pipe I have now is malformed, and the clutch pedal arm comes
          in contact <br>
          with it at full clutch pedal, and I've heard this is common in
          the <br>
          repops (yes, I could just bash the downpipe, but that would be
          tacky and <br>
          sometimes that can cause a ticking noise, which would annoy me
          even <br>
          more). But, the AHS pipe doesn't have the section of flexpipe
          so I'm <br>
          wondering if it's really needed. I have a TIG and I'm not
          terrible with <br>
          it, but the header and, presumably the flex tubing are SS,
          which I'm not <br>
          practiced in welding.<br>
          <br>
          Thanks for any suggestions.<br>
          <br>
          Bob<br>
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