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Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

To: "'Harold Manifold'" <manifold@telus.net>, <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal
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I made one too. The threads on the Motive Products cap are square cut or =
not machined properly. I tried several of their other caps and none of =
them sealed. The are screwed up and don=E2=80=99t know it.

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From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:22 PM
To: m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca
Cc: John Spaur <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>; Elton S <eps2660@gmail.com>; =
Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

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I modified an old reservoir cap with misc. spare parts. Looks ugly but =
it seals and I can attach a pump. Picture attached.

=20

Harold

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On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:55=E2=80=AFAM <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca =

I had the same experience with the Motive bleeder.  The cap screws on, =
but it does not seal.

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 12:43 PM
Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net =
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

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I used a pressure bleeder attached to a cap I made. My experience with =
the vacuum systems attached to the slave cylinder nipple is that they =
will pull air through the threads of the nipple when loose so they =
don=E2=80=99t work well in my opinion.

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Concerning pressure bleeders: Be forewarned that Motive Products make a =
pour bleeding system! The pressure bottle is good but the caps do not =
fit. I tried to work with them about this issue and spoke with a senior =
manager and the former owner to try to resolve the issue with the cap =
that would not fit and seal the system to it could be pressurized. I =
went as far as sending them a cap from a bottle of PVC solvent that is =
the same thread a Healey brake fluid reservoir to they could find a cap =
to fit. They just blew is off and did not help!

=20

John Spaur=20

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Elton =
S via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 6:55 PM
>
Subject: [Healeys] Brake fluid renewal

=20

Fellow Listers,

I need to replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What technique =
have you used? Did you just drain all the lines and reservoir and then =
refill with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the air out? Or draining =
the lines to where the reservoir is almost empty and then adding new =
fluid so as to prevent air from getting in the lines? Bleeding the =
clutch slave cylinder is not one of my favorite pastimes.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Elton

BJ7

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I made one too. The threads on =
the Motive Products cap are square cut or not machined properly. I tried =
several of their other caps and none of them sealed. The are screwed up =
and don=E2=80=99t know it.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Harold Manifold =
&lt;manifold@telus.net&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 26, 2024 =
12:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca<br><b>Cc:</b> John Spaur =
&lt;jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net&gt;; Elton S &lt;eps2660@gmail.com&gt;; =
Healey List &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Brake fluid renewal<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
modified an old reservoir cap with misc. spare parts. Looks ugly but it =
seals and I can attach a pump. Picture attached.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Harold<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:55=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca";>m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>I had the same experience with the Motive bleeder.&nbsp; =
The cap screws on, but it does not seal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
 Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>John Spaur via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 26, 2024 =
12:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Elton S' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:eps2660@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">eps2660@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healey List' =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Brake fluid renewal<span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I used a pressure bleeder attached to a cap I =
made. My experience with the vacuum systems attached to the slave =
cylinder nipple is that they will pull air through the threads of the =
nipple when loose so they don=E2=80=99t work well in my =
opinion.</span><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Concerning pressure bleeders: Be forewarned that =
Motive Products make a pour </span><u><span =
style=3D'color:black'>bleeding system!</span></u><span =
style=3D'color:black'> </span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The pressure =
bottle is good but the </span><u><span style=3D'color:black'>caps do not =
fit.</span></u><span style=3D'color:black'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I tried to work with them about this issue and =
spoke with a senior manager and the former owner to try to resolve the =
issue with the cap that would not fit and seal the system to it could be =
pressurized. I went as far as sending them a cap from a bottle of PVC =
solvent that is the same thread a Healey brake fluid reservoir to they =
could find a cap to fit. They just blew is off and did not =
help!</span><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>John Spaur </span><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
 Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Elton S via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 25, 2024 =
6:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ahealey help &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Healeys] Brake fluid renewal<span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Fellow =
Listers,<span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I need to =
replace my old discolored brake fluid with new. What technique have you =
used? Did you just drain all the lines and reservoir and then refill =
with new fluid? Then bleeding to get all the air out? Or draining the =
lines to where the reservoir is almost empty and then adding new fluid =
so as to prevent air from getting in the lines? Bleeding the clutch =
slave cylinder is not one of my favorite pastimes.<span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks in =
advance for your advice.<span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Elton<span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>BJ7<span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p =
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