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Subject: [Healeys] Recent 100M on BAT
From: S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 16:15:40 +0000
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If you were following it recently,  you might find my observations interest=
ing.  So I went down to Michael's motor cars to help him determine if the 1=
00m indeed has a BN1 chassis. Here is what I found.

It has the BN1 inner fenders with the rolled pressings. It has the BN1 fron=
t brake hose frame mount the is less pronounced welded BN1 bracket, as the =
later cars have a bolted on bracket. The front shock towers have no evidenc=
e of being replaced and show the factory welds. The gearbox mount shows non=
-original/factory welds as if it were replaced to accommodate the BN2 mount=
.

What I found most interesting is that where a BN1 has two OD relays mounted=
 under the dash, it took shining a light it different directions to just ma=
ke out the slight evidence of filled holes (4 of then for the two relays). =
And I was able to reach inside the vent just below that area with my finger=
s and feel the welds and welding wire that was used to fill those 4 holes. =
I can tell you someone took great care to try and make those holes seem as =
they never existed.  Along with that, where a BN2 would have the single OD =
relay attached to the firewall with machine screws screwed into welded capt=
ive nuts on the firewall,  you can see plain sheet screws were used to moun=
t it in what would be a BN2 relay position.

I also feel the engine tag is a repo because of the lighter stamping. Origi=
nals tend to have the numbers/ letters stamped with a deeper end result.  I=
 took my repo engine tag along to compare, and they appeared identical in t=
he stampings. The body/ bath tag and VIN plate appear original. Now that do=
esn't mean that the engine isn't the correct M engine, because there could =
be many reasons why the engine tag was replaced. Anyone who drove a stock 1=
00 compared to a 100M can attest to the difference in power, and Mike state=
d that it indeed has that M power.

The boot lid shows no evidence of the stay bracket being swapped off anothe=
r lid, and if you look closely you can see that the boot shows some previou=
s age/life. I'd believe it to be original. I could not make out any evidenc=
e of the bonnet number being sliced in from a M bonnet, but I will say that=
 the underside of the bonnet seemed suspiciously clean and prestine. I coul=
dn't detect any age like the boot, but that would be for someone else to de=
cide.

Mike had asked me if the cold air box was original,  and I simply don't hav=
e that experience to know. I have anyways heard if it looks old, it's origi=
nal.  It does indeed look to have some age, so?

I feel at some point in this car's life someone went to some effort to try =
and conceal that these 100M parts were reinstalled on a BN1 chassis. Anothe=
r interesting note is that there was an attempt to fill the holes where a B=
N1 chassis plate is fitted on the frame rail. Perhaps the person didn't rea=
lize that the holes continued over to the BN2's, and thought they were eras=
ing evidence of a BN1 chassis?

With all that said, Mike is simply trying to represent the car correctly. T=
he car is a very nice car! Paint is very nice, car is straight, and gaps lo=
ok good. Interior is very nice, and looks to be a very good car all around.=
 I didn't drive the car, but Mike has years of experience under his belt, s=
o I'd trust his opinions on that. With the quality of the restoration,  it =
is surprising that the front frame to shroud brackets were not welded to th=
e frame. Chrome looks good, and I'd think winning some trophies at a popula=
r vote car would not be an issue.


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."

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kground-color: transparent;">
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px">If you were following i=
t recently,&nbsp; you might find my observations interesting.&nbsp; So I we=
nt down to Michael's motor cars to help him determine if the 100m indeed ha=
s a BN1 chassis. Here is what I found.</div>
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<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px">It has the BN1 inner fe=
nders with the rolled pressings. It has the BN1 front brake hose frame moun=
t the is less pronounced welded BN1 bracket, as the later cars have a bolte=
d on bracket. The front shock towers
 have no evidence of being replaced and show the factory welds. The gearbox=
 mount shows non-original/factory welds as if it were replaced to accommoda=
te the BN2 mount.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px"><br style=3D"box-sizing=
: content-box">
</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px">What I found most inter=
esting is that where a BN1 has two OD relays mounted under the dash, it too=
k shining a light it different directions to just make out the slight evide=
nce of filled holes (4 of then for
 the two relays). And I was able to reach inside the vent just below that a=
rea with my fingers and feel the welds and welding wire that was used to fi=
ll those 4 holes. I can tell you someone took great care to try and make th=
ose holes seem as they never existed.&nbsp;
 Along with that, where a BN2 would have the single OD relay attached to th=
e firewall with machine screws screwed into welded captive nuts on the fire=
wall,&nbsp; you can see plain sheet screws were used to mount it in what wo=
uld be a BN2 relay position.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px"><br style=3D"box-sizing=
: content-box">
</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px">I also feel the engine =
tag is a repo because of the lighter stamping. Originals tend to have the n=
umbers/ letters stamped with a deeper end result.&nbsp; I took my repo engi=
ne tag along to compare, and they appeared
 identical in the stampings. The body/ bath tag and VIN plate appear origin=
al. Now that doesn't mean that the engine isn't the correct M engine, becau=
se there could be many reasons why the engine tag was replaced. Anyone who =
drove a stock 100 compared to a
 100M can attest to the difference in power, and Mike stated that it indeed=
 has that M power.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px"><br style=3D"box-sizing=
: content-box">
</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px">The boot lid shows no e=
vidence of the stay bracket being swapped off another lid, and if you look =
closely you can see that the boot shows some previous age/life. I'd believe=
 it to be original. I could not make
 out any evidence of the bonnet number being sliced in from a M bonnet, but=
 I will say that the underside of the bonnet seemed suspiciously clean and =
prestine. I couldn't detect any age like the boot, but that would be for so=
meone else to decide.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px"><br style=3D"box-sizing=
: content-box">
</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px">Mike had asked me if th=
e cold air box was original,&nbsp; and I simply don't have that experience =
to know. I have anyways heard if it looks old, it's original.&nbsp; It does=
 indeed look to have some age, so?</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px"><br style=3D"box-sizing=
: content-box">
</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px">I feel at some point in=
 this car's life someone went to some effort to try and conceal that these =
100M parts were reinstalled on a BN1 chassis. Another interesting note is t=
hat there was an attempt to fill the
 holes where a BN1 chassis plate is fitted on the frame rail. Perhaps the p=
erson didn't realize that the holes continued over to the BN2's, and though=
t they were erasing evidence of a BN1 chassis?&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px"><br style=3D"box-sizing=
: content-box">
</div>
<div style=3D"box-sizing: content-box; margin: 0px">With all that said, Mik=
e is simply trying to represent the car correctly. The car is a very nice c=
ar! Paint is very nice, car is straight, and gaps look good. Interior is ve=
ry nice, and looks to be a very good
 car all around. I didn't drive the car, but Mike has years of experience u=
nder his belt, so I'd trust his opinions on that. With the quality of the r=
estoration,&nbsp; it is surprising that the front frame to shroud brackets =
were not welded to the frame. Chrome
 looks good, and I'd think winning some trophies at a popular vote car woul=
d not be an issue.&nbsp;</div>
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</div>
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</div>
<div>The Millers<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;<br>
</div>
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