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If the engine starts and=C2=A0idles nicely=E2=80=94and there=E2=80=99s a ni=
ce fat spark at the plugs=E2=80=94but won=E2=80=99t rev, it sounds like a=
=C2=A0distributor advance sping(s) is broken or faulty in some other way. M=
ight consider rebuilding or replacing the distributor (I=E2=80=99d choose a=
Mallory dual point over the Pertronix dist, and=C2=A0Pertronix makes a=C2=
=A0module for that as well).=C2=A0If the car runs well but conks out on the=
road=C2=A0after it warms up, then restarts and repeats, it=E2=80=99s that =
stupid little ground wire inside. Someone else mentioned a blocked gas cap =
breather, which is also quite easy to check. Rust in the gas tank? Could ca=
use the engine to run well and then stop, which is a good reason to use a c=
lear fuel filter.=C2=A0But this really sounds like a dist problem =E2=80=A6
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On Thursday, September 21, 2023, 6:05 AM, Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.ne=
t> wrote:
I'm using the new floats, have a new 3ohm coil, and have changed the Pertro=
nix to a new one.=C2=A0 This is crazy----but after my last attempt by clean=
ing and oiling the baseplate of the distributor, she has sat at idle for a =
loooooong tie and has not shut down.=C2=A0 I'm still shooting in the dark, =
I'll admit, and if she shuts down again I'll do a quick spark test.
Tom
From: "Robert Markovich via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
To: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net>, "healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net=
>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 5:41:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue
Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll=C2=A0flo=
ats solve that issue. If=C2=A0not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a=C2=A03-ohm coil=C2=A0(always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse.=C2=
=A0
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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.ne=
t> wrote:
re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, t=
hey have been full of gas."
=20
Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points and SS,=
do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in the tank that =
intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used tank for our BN2 and exp=
erienced erratic behavior from the engine; my dad finally tracked it down t=
o a pinhole leak near where the pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmis=
ed the flux used to facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (th=
e tank was otherwise in good shape).
=20
bs
=20
=20
On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
=20
=20
Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ign=
ition system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the=
two pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for lon=
g periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to=
check spark.=C2=A0=20
When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again=
then shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without be=
ing able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=20
Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a =
fuel supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok=
there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets wer=
e stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down--=
-but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this s=
eems like an unlikely condition.=20
If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of th=
e overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps =
normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of=
gas.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown-=
-----so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark =20
=20
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If the engine starts and idles nicely=E2=80=94and there=E2=80=99s a ni=
ce fat spark at the plugs=E2=80=94but won=E2=80=99t rev, it sounds like a&n=
bsp;distributor advance sping(s) is broken or faulty in some other way. Mig=
ht consider rebuilding or replacing the distributor (I=E2=80=99d choose a M=
allory dual point over the Pertronix dist, and Pertronix makes a =
module for that as well). If the car runs well but conks out on the ro=
ad after it warms up, then restarts and repeats, it=E2=80=99s that stu=
pid little ground wire inside. Someone else mentioned a blocked gas cap bre=
ather, which is also quite easy to check. Rust in the gas tank? Could cause=
the engine to run well and then stop, which is a good reason to use a clea=
r fuel filter. But this really sounds like a dist problem =E2=80=A6<br=
><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/u=
s/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661">Sent from the all new AOL a=
pp for iOS</a><br></div><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-s=
ize: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Thursday, S=
eptember 21, 2023, 6:05 AM, Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net> wrote=
:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv2648000627"><div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000=
;"><div>I'm using the new floats, have a new 3ohm coil, and have changed th=
e Pertronix to a new one. This is crazy----but after my last attempt =
by cleaning and oiling the baseplate of the distributor, she has sat at idl=
e for a loooooong tie and has not shut down. I'm still shooting in th=
e dark, I'll admit, and if she shuts down again I'll do a quick spark test.=
</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Tom</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><hr id=3D"yiv2648000627zwchr"><div id=3D"yiv2648000627yqtfd05702" clas=
s=3D"yiv2648000627yqt5527134192"><div><b>From: </b>"Robert Markovich via He=
aleys" <healeys@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b>"Bob Spi=
dell" <bspidell@comcast.net>, "healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>=
;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 20, 2023 5:41:07 PM<b=
r clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div><div id=3D"yi=
v2648000627yqtfd38614" class=3D"yiv2648000627yqt5527134192">
Might the brass floats also have pinholes, causing them to fill with fuel a=
nd preventing them from rising as they should? The new nitro phyll flo=
ats solve that issue. If not, I=E2=80=99d suspect the distributor (int=
ernal ground wire or advence weights). Might also be worth buying another P=
ertronix module and a 3-ohm coil (always smart to have a spare al=
ong anyway) and see if it isn=E2=80=99t one of those. Still, it sounds more=
and more like an advance problem if the engine won=E2=80=99t reverse. =
;<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv=
2648000627yahoo-signature"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-ema=
il-weather-video/id646100661">Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS</a><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"><p style=3D"font-size:15px;color:#7=
15ffa;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0;" class=3D"yiv2648000627yahoo-quoted-be=
gin">On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 2:49 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@co=
mcast.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"yiv2648000627iosymail"><div id=
=3D"yiv2648000627"><div>
re: "The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl
caps, they have been full of gas."<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Which type/brand of pump do you have? I've seen pumps, both points
and SS, do some unexplainable things. Another thought: something in
the tank that intermittently blocks the pickup. We bought a used
tank for our BN2 and experienced erratic behavior from the engine;
my dad finally tracked it down to a pinhole leak near where the
pickup was soldered to the tank. Dad surmised the flux used to
facilitate the soldering eventually etched the hole (the tank was
otherwise in good shape).<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
bs<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div id=3D"yiv2648000627yqt95592" class=3D"yiv2648000627yqt0783226228">=
<div class=3D"yiv2648000627moz-cite-prefix">On 9/20/2023 7:46 AM, Tom Felts=
via
Healeys wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<blockquote>
</blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv2648000627yqt75672" class=3D"y=
iv2648000627yqt0783226228"><div><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helvet=
ica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">
<div>
=20
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">Since having the car towed home I have checked all
connections in the ignition system, pulled the distributor
base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces were very
tight. I have let her run in the garage for long periods =
of
time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able
to check spark. </div>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long
before she would start again then shut down. Then start,
then shut down. </div>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">I know my trial and error method wasn't the best
approach, but without being able to check spark it seemed
appropriate to change out components. </div>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this. I
thought it might be a fuel supply issue. So---I pulled th=
e
float bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and
cleaned the carbs. If the float bowl jets were stuck in a
closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut
down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't
get gas. this seems like an unlikely condition.</div>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">If they were stock in the open position it would
be dumping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again,
unlikely since it would still run. I have already changed
fuel filter and blew out the line. The pump pumps normall=
y
and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been
full of gas. So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvati=
on
as a cause. </div>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;"> </div>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0=
px;">in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no
shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can't ch spark</div>
</div>
</div>
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