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Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue

To: 'healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>, Alan Garrison <a2garrison@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue
From: jomar healey via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 20:13:32 +0000 (UTC)
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 I'm late to this but I aaume the wire in the distributor is not frayed. =
=C2=A0I had this on my BJ8 and whenver the vacuum advanced activate it caus=
ed the wire to short on the plate and the negined died. =C2=A0If this has b=
een covered I apologize.
Joe#923
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 03:37:13 PM EDT, Alan Garrison via He=
aleys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Before you go out on a test run I suggest you purchase a can of =E2=80=9CDr=
y-Gas=E2=80=9D. =C2=A0If the car shuts down again then add the Dry-Gas and =
drive on to see if the problem re-occurs.

 =C2=A0

The problem may be water in the gas tank either from condensation or from t=
he underground fuel tanks at your gas station. This has happened to me a fe=
w times over the past 50+ years of ownership with the same symptoms you des=
cribed.

 =C2=A0

Good luck!

 =C2=A0

Alan

=E2=80=9859 BN6

 =C2=A0

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tom Felts via H=
ealeys
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:50 AM
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue

 =C2=A0

Continued----I will next take her out on the road--and if she shut down on =
me again I'll try to get a quick spark test.=C2=A0 Other than what I've don=
e, not sure what happens next if she shuts down and I have spark.=C2=A0 The=
re is an auto-electric place near me--might consider taking here there.

Tom

 =C2=A0

From: "Tom Felts" <tomfelts@windstream.net>
To: "healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:46:07 AM
Subject: update on shutdown issue

 =C2=A0

Since having the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ignit=
ion system, pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the t=
wo pieces were very tight.=C2=A0 I have let her run in the garage for long =
periods of time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to c=
heck spark.=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

When it did shut down, it wouldn't take long before she would start again t=
hen shut down.=C2=A0 Then start, then shut down.=C2=A0=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

I know my trial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without bein=
g able to check spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.=C2=A0 I thought it might be a fu=
el supply issue.=C2=A0 So---I pulled the float bowl covers and all was ok t=
here--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.=C2=A0 If the float bowl jets were =
stuck in a closed position it would get no gas and eventually shut down---b=
ut---both would have to stick so each carb wouldn't get gas.=C2=A0 this see=
ms like an unlikely condition.

 =C2=A0

If they were stock in the open position it would be dumping gas out of the =
overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would still run.=C2=A0 I have=
 already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.=C2=A0 The pump pumps no=
rmally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, they have been full of g=
as.=C2=A0 So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvation as a cause.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0

=C2=A0

in the garage she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I men=
tioned, I can't ch spark

 =C2=A0
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I'm late to this but I aaume=
 the wire in the distributor is not frayed. &nbsp;I had this on my BJ8 and =
whenver the vacuum advanced activate it caused the wire to short on the pla=
te and the negined died. &nbsp;If this has been covered I apologize.</div><=
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                    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, 03:37:13 PM EDT, Alan=
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--></style><div><div class=3D"yiv7495624917WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv749=
5624917MsoNormal">Before you go out on a test run I suggest you purchase a =
can of =E2=80=9CDry-Gas=E2=80=9D. &nbsp;If the car shuts down again then ad=
d the Dry-Gas and drive on to see if the problem re-occurs.</p><p class=3D"=
yiv7495624917MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal">The =
problem may be water in the gas tank either from condensation or from the u=
nderground fuel tanks at your gas station. This has happened to me a few ti=
mes over the past 50+ years of ownership with the same symptoms you describ=
ed.</p><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv749562=
4917MsoNormal">Good luck!</p><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p=
><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal">Alan</p><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNo=
rmal">=E2=80=9859 BN6</p><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><di=
v id=3D"yiv7495624917yqt44491" class=3D"yiv7495624917yqt6117852730"><div><d=
iv style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0i=
n 0in;"><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healey=
s-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Felts via Healeys<br c=
lear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:50 AM<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>To:</b> healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] update on shutdown issue</p></div></div><p=
 class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"yiv74956=
24917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;colo=
r:black;">Continued----I will next take her out on the road--and if she shu=
t down on me again I'll try to get a quick spark test.&nbsp; Other than wha=
t I've done, not sure what happens next if she shuts down and I have spark.=
&nbsp; There is an auto-electric place near me--might consider taking here =
there.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Tom</span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt=
;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div align=3D=
"center" style=3D"text-align:center;" class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"></span><hr=
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><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">From: </span></b><span style=3D"font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">"Tom Felts" &lt;<a rel=3D=
"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tomfelts@wi=
ndstream.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net";>tom=
felts@windstream.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b>"healeys" &lt;<a =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"=
>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, S=
eptember 20, 2023 10:46:07 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>update on s=
hutdown issue</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</s=
pan></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Since havin=
g the car towed home I have checked all connections in the ignition system,=
 pulled the distributor base plate out and cleaned it--the the two pieces w=
ere very tight.&nbsp; I have let her run in the garage for long periods of =
time and she has not shut down again so I haven't been able to check spark.=
&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12=
.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">When it did shut down, it wouldn'=
t take long before she would start again then shut down.&nbsp; Then start, =
then shut down.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:blac=
k;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">I know my tr=
ial and error method wasn't the best approach, but without being able to ch=
eck spark it seemed appropriate to change out components.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:black;">Tell me if my analysis is correct on this.&nb=
sp; I thought it might be a fuel supply issue.&nbsp; So---I pulled the floa=
t bowl covers and all was ok there--also pulled and cleaned the carbs.&nbsp=
; If the float bowl jets were stuck in a closed position it would get no ga=
s and eventually shut down---but---both would have to stick so each carb wo=
uldn't get gas.&nbsp; this seems like an unlikely condition.</span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:san=
s-serif;color:black;">If they were stock in the open position it would be d=
umping gas out of the overflow tubes---so, again, unlikely since it would s=
till run.&nbsp; I have already changed fuel filter and blew out the line.&n=
bsp; The pump pumps normally and each time I pulled the float bowl caps, th=
ey have been full of gas.&nbsp; So--I have basically ruled out fuel starvat=
ion as a cause.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:blac=
k;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">in the garage=
 she sits and purrs forever with no shutdown------so, as I mentioned, I can=
't ch spark</span></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"yiv7495624917MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbs=
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