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Re: [Healeys] Shock mount--BJ8

To: Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net>, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Shock mount--BJ8
From: Jean Caron via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2023 03:20:22 +0000
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I bought a pair from Kilmartin in Australia and installed them with the ins=
tructions provided  pretty easy to do if the engine is out of the car.

Jean

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=92s largest network.
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Tom Felts via H=
ealeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 6:16:53 PM
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Shock mount--BJ8

So---has anyone here installed an adjustable shock mount?  Seems that may b=
e the answer to getting proper camber even if you don't align it quite righ=
t.
Tom

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From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: "healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 10:39:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Shock mount--BJ8

Great question, right up there with 'What is the meaning of life?' and one =
I've pondered myself.

I know the shop manual has a frame dimensional diagram, but I don't know if=
 it precisely locates the shock mounts (I'm to lazy to dig the book out rig=
ht now, and your frame is probably tweaked a bit anyway). All I've come up =
with is make your best guess by, as you suggested, measuring the 'good' sid=
e best you can then tack weld the mount (you should get close and, who know=
s, you might get lucky). Then, install shock and A-arm and GENTLY lower the=
 frame to the ground and check alignment. Repeat as necessary then weld it =
in. I bought the full rig from these guys, since I have 5 cars and 2 tracto=
rs so it's 'justified' (NFI):

https://wheelalignmenttools.com/store/

... and have been happy with it (support is good, and they're based, IIRC, =
in Fremont, CA). I got a 'pro' alignment--with the fancy laser rig--for my =
Mustang and their rig pretty much agrees with it. Camber is the easy part, =
a direct measurement, but caster is a bit trickier. Make sure to account fo=
r the slope of the floor when taking readings.

I used offset trunnion bushings on my BJ8 and adjustable camber plates on t=
he BN2 to set camber at zero, and feel handling is better than 'book' setti=
ng (1deg pos). Caster is less than 'book' on both, which is less than used =
on most other cars, but both track just fine. I set toe at just a hair in; =
but haven't put enough miles on either to see if tire wear is improved (you=
'd need to start with new tires).

Bob


On 9/5/2023 12:09 PM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
Years ago I had the right shock mount replaced because of a bad metal tear =
in it.  I'm not even sure who did the job for me.  Over the years since I h=
ave had bad outside tire wa=3Dear on that side.  I'm thinking that when it =
was welded on, it was not placed properly.

So----If I remove it and have it replaced with a new one, how do I do about=
 lining it up properly?

I've thought about having the alignment equipment hooked up with the unatta=
ched shock attached and moving the tire in or out until I get the proper ca=
mber then clamping it to the tower and welding.  That might be an impossibl=
e thing to do with the heavy shock hanging on.  Is it possible to measure t=
he good (original) side and place it according to that side?

Ideas?

Thanks--Tom

Other than than that, how to I alignment it properly?



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<div dir=3D"auto">I bought a pair from Kilmartin in Australia and installed=
 them with the instructions provided&nbsp; pretty easy to do if the engine =
is out of the car.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Jean</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir=3D"auto">Sent from my Bell Sams=
ung device over Canada=92s largest network.</div>
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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st=
yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys-b=
ounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Tom Felts via Healeys &lt;healeys@au=
tox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 6, 2023 6:16:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Shock mount--BJ8</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color=
:#000000">
<div>So---has anyone here installed an adjustable shock mount?&nbsp; Seems =
that may be the answer to getting proper camber even if you don't align it =
quite right.</div>
<div>Tom</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<hr id=3D"x_zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__">
<div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>&quot;Bob Spidell&quot; &lt;b=
spidell@comcast.net&gt;<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;healeys&quot; &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 6, 2023 10:39:00 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Shock mount--BJ8<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">Great question, right up there with 'W=
hat is the meaning of life?' and one I've pondered myself.
<br>
<br>
I know the shop manual has a frame dimensional diagram, but I don't know if=
 it precisely locates the shock mounts (I'm to lazy to dig the book out rig=
ht now, and your frame is probably tweaked a bit anyway). All I've come up =
with is make your best guess by,
 as you suggested, measuring the 'good' side best you can then tack weld th=
e mount (you should get close and, who knows, you might get lucky). Then, i=
nstall shock and A-arm and GENTLY lower the frame to the ground and check a=
lignment. Repeat as necessary then
 weld it in. I bought the full rig from these guys, since I have 5 cars and=
 2 tractors so it's 'justified' (NFI):<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://wheelalignmenttools.com/store/"; originalsrc=3D"https://w=
heelalignmenttools.com/store/" shash=3D"vlIfAoC5TzBd6ObkphERibcTqzKQDeGVTrw=
raRQspga/jY1kSgpwKrFGyYFa2M+ahAGaO+3zVUV9PggpMTbB7PBrf0qxk+JSTD+sNtaNBaXXTj=
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"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://wheelalignmenttools.c=
om/store/</a><br>
<br>
... and have been happy with it (support is good, and they're based, IIRC, =
in Fremont, CA). I got a 'pro' alignment--with the fancy laser rig--for my =
Mustang and their rig pretty much agrees with it. Camber is the easy part, =
a direct measurement, but caster
 is a bit trickier. Make sure to account for the slope of the floor when ta=
king readings.<br>
<br>
I used offset trunnion bushings on my BJ8 and adjustable camber plates on t=
he BN2 to set camber at zero, and feel handling is better than 'book' setti=
ng (1deg pos). Caster is less than 'book' on both, which is less than used =
on most other cars, but both track
 just fine. I set toe at just a hair in; but haven't put enough miles on ei=
ther to see if tire wear is improved (you'd need to start with new tires).<=
br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 9/5/2023 12:09 PM, Tom Felts via Healey=
s wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div style=3D"font-family:'arial' ,'helvetica' ,sans-serif; font-size:12pt;=
 color:#000000">
<div>Years ago I had the right shock mount replaced because of a bad metal =
tear in it.&nbsp; I'm not even sure who did the job for me.&nbsp; Over the =
years since I have had bad outside tire wa=3Dear on that side.&nbsp; I'm th=
inking that when it was welded on, it was not placed
 properly.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So----If I remove it and have it replaced with a new one, how do I do =
about lining it up properly?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I've thought about having the alignment equipment hooked up with the u=
nattached shock attached and moving the tire in or out until I get the prop=
er camber then clamping it to the tower and welding.&nbsp; That might be an=
 impossible thing to do with the heavy
 shock hanging on.&nbsp; Is it possible to measure the good (original) side=
 and place it according to that side?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ideas?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks--Tom</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Other than than that, how to I alignment it properly?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div=
>
</div>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
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