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Similar happened in 2002 when about 20 Austin-Healeys came over from the US=
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to England. Nearly half of them had flat batteries and some of the=20
damaged/dented when they arrived at Portsmouth. It was a real desaster.
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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump
Datum: 2023-07-30T17:06:27+0200
Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
An: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net>
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Bob--
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He said "When the cars arrived in Norway in early June, several had
ignition switches left in the 'on' position and the battery master switch
also left on" which would explain why the batteries were run down. =20
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Also, if any of the cars had points ignitions and the contacts were closed=
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would not that contribute to current drain, if not a burned set of points?
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 10:17=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net
That's kinda odd; did they leave GPSs or some other electronics on?
Nothing on a stock Healey should be drawing current with the key off.
I've left the cutoff 'on' for months without draining a battery.
'Modern' cars are a different story; they'll run a battery down in a few
weeks, with anti-theft, remote unlock, etc. drawing current
continuously. Also, I think battery quality has gone downhill overall
since most are now produced in Mexico.
On 7/29/2023 9:44 PM, alfuller194@gmail.com
> Humm - low battery causing the pump to effectively 'stall' is something
to
> think about...
>
> On a related note, I have my fingers crossed for my own battery! The
car is
> due to be shipped back from Norway any day now, returning from the
European
> Healey Meet. When the cars arrived in Norway in early June, several had
> ignition switches left in the 'on' position and the battery master
switch
> also left on. The result was several of the cars needed new batteries
before
> going anywhere. This was despite most everyone having printed
'starting and
> storing instructions' in the car calling for the battery master switch
to be
> used. Like I said - fingers crossed...
>
> As to the Healey Meet - great roads! One of my favorites is Trollstigen
> ['Troll's Ladder']. For a sample, see:
><https://www.lifeinnorway.net/trollstigen-norway/>
>
> ----------------
> All the best,
>
> Al Fuller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 7:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump
>
> Conceivably--note: 'conceivably'--less than 12V at the pump would leave
the
> electromagnet charged but unable to fully retract the diaphragm and
open the
> points (or electronic circuit) to stop current flow. You'd still have
> current flowing through the electromagnet, which could overheat and,
well,
> fry.
>
>
> On 7/28/2023 2:37 PM, alfuller194@gmail.com
>> Jim - I don't recall those messages, so maybe someone with more
>> knowledge than me can respond.
>>
>> That said, I don't see how a low or dead battery would damage a fuel
>> pump. I would think the pump would see just the circuit as unpowered
>> and not work, but not suffer for the experience...
>>
>> ----------------
>> All the best,
>>
>> Al Fuller
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
>> healeymanjim
>> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 10:47 AM
>> Subject: [Healeys] fuel pump
>>
>> i have seen messages on the list where folks have stated that low
>> battery can cause problems with solid state fuel pump. the battery i
>> replaced was so weak it would not turn the motor over even with plugs
>> removed. any info on this anyplace on the internet?
>>
>
>
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=3DUTF-8"/><title></title></head><body><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;te=
xt-decoration:none">Similar happened in 2002 when about 20 Austin-Healeys c=
ame over from the US to England. Nearly half of them had flat batteries and=
some of the damaged/dented when they arrived at Portsmouth. It was a real =
desaster.<br /></span></p>
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erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"> </span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-07-30T17:06:27+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com&=
gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net></p=
>
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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Bob--</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;"> </div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default"><span style=3D"color: #3333ff;">He said </span=
><span style=3D"color: #0000ff;"><em>"When the cars arrived in Norway in ea=
rly June, several had</em></span></div>
<span style=3D"color: #0000ff;"><em>ignition switches left in the 'on' posi=
tion and the battery master switch</em><br /><em>also left on</em><span cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default"><em>"</em> which would explain why the batteries =
were run down. </span></span>
<div><span style=3D"color: #0000ff;"><span class=3D"gmail_default"> </=
span></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"color: #0000ff;"><span class=3D"gmail_default">Also, if=
any of the cars had points ignitions and the contacts were closed would no=
t that contribute to current drain, if not a burned set of points?</span></=
span></div>
</div>
<br />
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 10:17=E2=80=
=AFAM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comc=
ast.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;">That's kinda odd; did they l=
eave GPSs or some other electronics on? <br />Nothing on a stock Healey sho=
uld be drawing current with the key off. <br />I've left the cutoff 'on' fo=
r months without draining a battery.<br /><br />'Modern' cars are a differe=
nt story; they'll run a battery down in a few <br />weeks, with anti-theft,=
remote unlock, etc. drawing current <br />continuously. Also, I think batt=
ery quality has gone downhill overall <br />since most are now produced in =
Mexico.<br /><br /><br />On 7/29/2023 9:44 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:alfuller19=
4@gmail.com">alfuller194@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br />> Humm - low battery =
causing the pump to effectively 'stall' is something to<br />> think abo=
ut...<br />><br />> On a related note, I have my fingers crossed for =
my own battery! The car is<br />> due to be shipped back from Norw=
ay any day now, returning from the European<br />> Healey Meet. When the=
cars arrived in Norway in early June, several had<br />> ignition switc=
hes left in the 'on' position and the battery master switch<br />> also =
left on. The result was several of the cars needed new batteries before<br =
/>> going anywhere. This was despite most everyone having printed =
'starting and<br />> storing instructions' in the car calling for the ba=
ttery master switch to be<br />> used. Like I said - fingers cross=
ed...<br />><br />> As to the Healey Meet - great roads! One of my fa=
vorites is Trollstigen<br />> ['Troll's Ladder']. For a sample, see:<br =
/>> <a href=3D"https://www.lifeinnorway.net/trollstigen-norway/"; rel=3D"=
noreferrer">https://www.lifeinnorway.net/trollstigen-norway/</a><br />><=
br />> ----------------<br />> All the best,<br />><br />> Al F=
uller<br />><br />> -----Original Message-----<br />> From: Healey=
s <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell<br />> Sent: Friday, July 2=
8, 2023 7:00 PM<br />> To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>hea=
leys@autox.team.net</a><br />> Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump<br />>=
;<br />> Conceivably--note: 'conceivably'--less than 12V at the pump wou=
ld leave the<br />> electromagnet charged but unable to fully retract th=
e diaphragm and open the<br />> points (or electronic circuit) to stop c=
urrent flow. You'd still have<br />> current flowing through the electro=
magnet, which could overheat and, well,<br />> fry.<br />><br />><=
br />> On 7/28/2023 2:37 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com";>al=
fuller194@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br />>> Jim - I don't recall those mes=
sages, so maybe someone with more<br />>> knowledge than me can respo=
nd.<br />>><br />>> That said, I don't see how a low or dead ba=
ttery would damage a fuel<br />>> pump. I would think the pump would =
see just the circuit as unpowered<br />>> and not work, but not suffe=
r for the experience...<br />>><br />>> ----------------<br />&=
gt;> All the best,<br />>><br />>> Al Fuller<br />>><b=
r />>> -----Original Message-----<br />>> From: Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>> On Behalf Of<br />>> healeymanjim<br />>> Sent: Frid=
ay, July 28, 2023 10:47 AM<br />>> To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br />>> Subject: [Healeys] fue=
l pump<br />>><br />>> i have seen messages on the list where f=
olks have stated that low<br />>> battery can cause problems with sol=
id state fuel pump. the battery i<br />>> replaced was so weak =
it would not turn the motor over even with plugs<br />>> removed.&nbs=
p; any info on this anyplace on the internet?<br />>><br />><br />=
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