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Bob--
He said *"When the cars arrived in Norway in early June, several had*
*ignition switches left in the 'on' position and the battery master switch*
*also left on**"* which would explain why the batteries were run down.
Also, if any of the cars had points ignitions and the contacts were closed
would not that contribute to current drain, if not a burned set of points?
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 10:17=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>=
wrote:
> That's kinda odd; did they leave GPSs or some other electronics on?
> Nothing on a stock Healey should be drawing current with the key off.
> I've left the cutoff 'on' for months without draining a battery.
>
> 'Modern' cars are a different story; they'll run a battery down in a few
> weeks, with anti-theft, remote unlock, etc. drawing current
> continuously. Also, I think battery quality has gone downhill overall
> since most are now produced in Mexico.
>
>
> On 7/29/2023 9:44 PM, alfuller194@gmail.com wrote:
> > Humm - low battery causing the pump to effectively 'stall' is something
> to
> > think about...
> >
> > On a related note, I have my fingers crossed for my own battery! The
> car is
> > due to be shipped back from Norway any day now, returning from the
> European
> > Healey Meet. When the cars arrived in Norway in early June, several had
> > ignition switches left in the 'on' position and the battery master swit=
ch
> > also left on. The result was several of the cars needed new batteries
> before
> > going anywhere. This was despite most everyone having printed 'startin=
g
> and
> > storing instructions' in the car calling for the battery master switch
> to be
> > used. Like I said - fingers crossed...
> >
> > As to the Healey Meet - great roads! One of my favorites is Trollstigen
> > ['Troll's Ladder']. For a sample, see:
> > https://www.lifeinnorway.net/trollstigen-norway/
> >
> > ----------------
> > All the best,
> >
> > Al Fuller
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
> > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 7:00 PM
> > To: healeys@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump
> >
> > Conceivably--note: 'conceivably'--less than 12V at the pump would leave
> the
> > electromagnet charged but unable to fully retract the diaphragm and ope=
n
> the
> > points (or electronic circuit) to stop current flow. You'd still have
> > current flowing through the electromagnet, which could overheat and,
> well,
> > fry.
> >
> >
> > On 7/28/2023 2:37 PM, alfuller194@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Jim - I don't recall those messages, so maybe someone with more
> >> knowledge than me can respond.
> >>
> >> That said, I don't see how a low or dead battery would damage a fuel
> >> pump. I would think the pump would see just the circuit as unpowered
> >> and not work, but not suffer for the experience...
> >>
> >> ----------------
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> Al Fuller
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
> >> healeymanjim
> >> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 10:47 AM
> >> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> >> Subject: [Healeys] fuel pump
> >>
> >> i have seen messages on the list where folks have stated that low
> >> battery can cause problems with solid state fuel pump. the battery i
> >> replaced was so weak it would not turn the motor over even with plugs
> >> removed. any info on this anyplace on the internet?
> >>
> >
> >
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Bob--=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">He s=
aid </span><font color=3D"#0000ff"><i>"When the cars arrived in Norway=
in early June, several had</i></font></div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><i>igni=
tion switches left in the 'on' position and the battery master swit=
ch</i><br><i>also left on</i><span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><i>&q=
uot;</i>=C2=A0which would explain why the batteries were run down.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0</span></font><div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span class=3D"gmail_default"=
style=3D""><br></span></font></div><div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"">Also, if any of the cars had points ignition=
s and the contacts were closed would not that contribute to current drain, =
if not a burned set of points?</span></font></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 1=
0:17=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bsp=
idell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex">That's kinda odd; did they leave GPSs or some other el=
ectronics on? <br>
Nothing on a stock Healey should be drawing current with the key off. <br>
I've left the cutoff 'on' for months without draining a battery=
.<br>
<br>
'Modern' cars are a different story; they'll run a battery down=
in a few <br>
weeks, with anti-theft, remote unlock, etc. drawing current <br>
continuously. Also, I think battery quality has gone downhill overall <br>
since most are now produced in Mexico.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 7/29/2023 9:44 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
> Humm - low battery causing the pump to effectively 'stall' is =
something to<br>
> think about...<br>
><br>
> On a related note, I have my fingers crossed for my own battery!=C2=A0=
The car is<br>
> due to be shipped back from Norway any day now, returning from the Eur=
opean<br>
> Healey Meet. When the cars arrived in Norway in early June, several ha=
d<br>
> ignition switches left in the 'on' position and the battery ma=
ster switch<br>
> also left on. The result was several of the cars needed new batteries =
before<br>
> going anywhere.=C2=A0 This was despite most everyone having printed &#=
39;starting and<br>
> storing instructions' in the car calling for the battery master sw=
itch to be<br>
> used.=C2=A0 Like I said - fingers crossed...<br>
><br>
> As to the Healey Meet - great roads! One of my favorites is Trollstige=
n<br>
> ['Troll's Ladder']. For a sample, see:<br>
> <a href=3D"https://www.lifeinnorway.net/trollstigen-norway/"; rel=3D"no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.lifeinnorway.net/trollstigen-norway=
/</a><br>
><br>
> ----------------<br>
> All the best,<br>
><br>
> Al Fuller<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Bob Spi=
dell<br>
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 7:00 PM<br>
> To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healey=
s@autox.team.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump<br>
><br>
> Conceivably--note: 'conceivably'--less than 12V at the pump wo=
uld leave the<br>
> electromagnet charged but unable to fully retract the diaphragm and op=
en the<br>
> points (or electronic circuit) to stop current flow. You'd still h=
ave<br>
> current flowing through the electromagnet, which could overheat and, w=
ell,<br>
> fry.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 7/28/2023 2:37 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
>> Jim - I don't recall those messages, so maybe someone with mor=
e<br>
>> knowledge than me can respond.<br>
>><br>
>> That said, I don't see how a low or dead battery would damage =
a fuel<br>
>> pump. I would think the pump would see just the circuit as unpower=
ed<br>
>> and not work, but not suffer for the experience...<br>
>><br>
>> ----------------<br>
>> All the best,<br>
>><br>
>> Al Fuller<br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of<br>
>> healeymanjim<br>
>> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 10:47 AM<br>
>> To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">he=
aleys@autox.team.net</a><br>
>> Subject: [Healeys] fuel pump<br>
>><br>
>> i have seen messages on the list where folks have stated that low<=
br>
>> battery can cause problems with solid state fuel pump.=C2=A0 the b=
attery i<br>
>> replaced was so weak it would not turn the motor over even with pl=
ugs<br>
>> removed.=C2=A0 any info on this anyplace on the internet?<br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
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