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Wow!!!
On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 11:47=E2=80=AFAM Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> w=
rote:
> Me too had my rear drums balanced.
> A local machine shop with dynamic balancing equipment did this for me -
> big improvement.
> See photo of drum after grinding off a substantial amount along the
> periphery.
> See also the before and after out of balance readings.
>
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> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 4:45=E2=80=AFPM Bob Haskell via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Harold,
>>
>> How did you balance the drums - add or remove material? Care to provide
>> any details?
>>
>> Bob Haskell
>> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>>
>> On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:
>>
>> Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. I
>> have the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balanc=
e
>> they were. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the
>> separately balanced wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle
>> shakes so far.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM <greylinn@ozemail.com.au> wrote=
:
>>
>>> Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near me) that does=
on-car
>>> balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a central hole, so c=
an=E2=80=99t be
>>> balanced on a regular machine. That said, the last set of Khumo Ecowing
>>> ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Linn
>>>
>>> Brisbane
>>>
>>> BN1 Holden V6
>>>
>>> MG TC special
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *m.g.sha=
rp---
>>> via Healeys
>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM
>>> *To:* 'Harold Manifold' <manifold@telus.net>; 'HealeyRick' <
>>> healeyrik@gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (spinner). I
>>> had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was true =
on
>>> the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a slight cham=
fer
>>> on the edges to provide better registration for the standard cones on a
>>> modern balancer. Then we machined the centre out of the spinner so th=
at
>>> when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is tightened, the
>>> outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers on the hub. T=
hat
>>> part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too big, the spinner
>>> will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully! Hub and spinner=
was $25 at
>>> a swap meet and machining was $50. I believe this adaptor will work on=
any
>>> post-war wire wheels except the Jags, which had different hubs. Worked=
a
>>> treat on my TC wheels. Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving it
>>> alone for now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it balanced th=
e
>>> drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you remembered to ma=
rk the
>>> position of the wheels when you took them off and did not rotate them (=
to a
>>> different position on the car)! That is likely one reason they are no=
t
>>> used anymore, because if your drums were out of balance and you added
>>> weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then every time you remove=
d
>>> the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, unless it went back in exac=
tly the same
>>> position. Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I have not seen an on-w=
heel
>>> balancer for decades. I imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but =
when
>>> I balanced the drums on the TC they were significantly off. I hear
>>> balancing Healey drums brings good results, but never felt the need as =
my
>>> BT7 has always run pretty smooth. If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants
>>> drums balanced, Garland and Sons in Scarborough did great work for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mirek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Harold
>>> Manifold
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM
>>> *To:* HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It looks like the kit is designed to follow the Dunlop/MWS
>>> recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good piece =
of
>>> kit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harold
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel balancer kit to
>>> mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine. What are your thoughts=
?
>>> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-b=
alancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=
=3Demail
>>>
>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Wow!!!</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 11:47=E2=80=AFAM Roger Grace=
<<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>roggrace@telus.net</a>> wrote=
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8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div>Me too had my rear drums balanced.</div><div>A local machine shop w=
ith dynamic balancing equipment did this for me - big improvement.</div><di=
v>See photo of drum after grinding off a substantial amount along the perip=
hery.</div><div>See also the before and after out of balance readings.<br><=
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iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 4:45=E2=80=AFPM=
Bob Haskell via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=20
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<div>
<p>Harold,</p>
<p>How did you balance the drums - add or remove material? Care to
provide any details?<br>
</p>
<pre cols=3D"72">Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
<div>On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<div dir=3D"ltr">Another consideration for balancing the rear tires
is the brake drums. I have the original BMC brake drums and was
surprised at how out of balance they were. I static balanced the
brake drums to go with the separately=C2=A0balanced wheels and tire=
s.
No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle shakes so far.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Harold</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 15, 2023 at
12:34=E2=80=AFAM <<a href=3D"mailto:greylinn@ozemail.com.au"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">greylinn@ozemail.com.au</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div lang=3D"EN-AU">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=
=99s at
least one place (near me) that does on-car
balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a ce=
ntral
hole, so can=E2=80=99t be balanced on a regular machine=
.
That said, the last set of Khumo Ecowing ES31s I
bought are fine with no balancing!</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Peter Linn</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Brisbane</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>BN1 Holden V6</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>MG TC special</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor =
currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;pa=
dding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</s=
pan></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>m.g.sharp--- via Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Harold Manifold' <<a href=3D=
"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank">manifold@telus.net</a>>;
'HealeyRick' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyri=
k@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <<a href=3D"mailto:=
healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br=
>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel
Balancer</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I made up my ow=
n
adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (spinner).=C2=A0=
I
had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and
ensure that it was true on the inside edges (where
the bearings fit) and had him put a slight chamfer
on the edges to provide better registration for the
standard cones on a modern balancer.=C2=A0 Then we
machined the centre out of the spinner so=C2=A0 that wh=
en
the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is
tightened, the outer cone on the balancer fits
through it and registers on the hub.=C2=A0 That part is=
a
little tricky as if you machine the hole too big,
the spinner will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure
carefully!=C2=A0 Hub and spinner was $25 at a swap meet
and machining was $50.=C2=A0 I believe this adaptor wil=
l
work on any post-war wire wheels except the Jags,
which had different hubs.=C2=A0 Worked a treat on my TC
wheels.=C2=A0 Healey is running vibration-free- so
leaving it alone for now.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I too liked
on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it
balanced the drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as=
long
as you remembered to mark the position of the wheels
when you took them off and did not rotate them (to a
different position on the car)!=C2=A0 That is likely on=
e
reason =C2=A0they are not used anymore, because if your
drums were out of balance and you added weights to
the wheel that balanced them out, then every time
you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance,
unless it went back in exactly the same position.
=C2=A0=C2=A0Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I have =
not seen an
on-wheel balancer for decades. =C2=A0=C2=A0I imagine th=
at
disks run very true anyhow, but when I balanced the
drums on the TC=C2=A0 they were significantly off.=C2=
=A0 I
hear balancing Healey drums brings good results, but
never felt the need as my BT7 has always run pretty
smooth.=C2=A0 If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums
balanced, Garland and Sons in Scarborough did great
work for me.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Mirek</span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></=
p>
<div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor cu=
rrentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padd=
ing:3pt 0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</spa=
n></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold Manifold<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> HealeyRick <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</sp=
an></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></=
p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">It looks like
the kit is designed to follow=C2=A0the Dunlop/MWS
recommendations for balancing. See attached. It
should be a good piece of kit.</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</spa=
n></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Harold</spa=
n></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></=
p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">On Thu, May
11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healeys =
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a>>
wrote:</span></p>
</div>
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or currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-w=
idth:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.=
8pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">AH Spares
just sent out this email about a wire wheel
balancer kit to mount the wheels on a modern
balancing machine.=C2=A0 What are your thoughts?=
=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/=
wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=
=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Demail" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ahspare=
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edium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Demail</a></s=
pan></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0<=
/span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Rick
Neville aka "HealeyRick"</span></p>
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