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Simon: I=E2=80=99m going to chime in here.
Battery people will tell you that a conventional lead acid auto starting ba=
ttery loses about 10% of it=E2=80=99s capacity every year. So after a cert=
ain time, they may still be capable of cranking the engine, but not with as=
much gusto as when new =E2=80=93 and it is constantly decreasing in effici=
ency. It=E2=80=99s my opinion that after 5 =E2=80=93 6 years, one has alre=
ady won that battle, and that anything longer is a bonus, especially over t=
he last few years when battery quality in general has gone down at about th=
e same pace as prices have gone up. Al mentioned peace of mind =E2=80=93 i=
f it were me with a 10 year old battery, I wouldn=E2=80=99t spend money on =
a load test, better put it towards a new battery. Or at least be prepared =
to maybe have to do it on the road as you did before. Others may disagree.=
Re: the carb jets: The advice that you got from Burlen =E2=80=93 and maybe=
others - is good. The trouble is that it=E2=80=99s impossible to predict w=
hen that first jet diaphragm will start to seep slightly, or whether or not=
it will rapidly turn into a tear that will mean not driving the car until =
it=E2=80=99s fixed. Personally, I get a bit nervous about my jet diaphragm=
s at about 10 years, but that=E2=80=99s just me. The older I get, the more=
that peace of mind matters to me =E2=80=93 especially with old British spo=
rts cars! Once again, others may disagree. Your call.
A little trick: If you ever suspect that a diaphragm is starting to leak, =
disconnect that carb=E2=80=99s choke system so that the diaphragm doesn=E2=
=80=99t flex when the choke is operated. The car will start cold on the ot=
her carb(s). This gives you a better chance of getting the car home, or to=
a repair facility. Try hard to ignore any gas dripping very close to your=
lap. (even closer in LHD Healeys). Been there, done that!
Let us know how it goes.
Earl Kagna
Victoria, BC
BT7, BJ8
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of alfuller194@gma=
il.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 11:45 AM
To: 'Bob Spidell' <bspidell@comcast.net>; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HD6s cont'd & Battery life.
Simon =E2=80=93 I agree with Bob that your next step may/should be to have =
the battery tested, and would add the following:
Don=E2=80=99t forget that starting the car is only half of the battery=E2=
=80=99s job. Once started, the car will run on the output from the alternat=
or or generator [possibly with a bit of filtering from the battery] =E2=80=
=93 and the battery is there as a backup so the car doesn=E2=80=99t die sud=
denly immediately upon loss of generating capacity [or over-voltage, or sho=
rt-circuit, or other issues=E2=80=A6].
As such =E2=80=93 having tested the battery should provide peace of mind! [=
And if it fails the test =E2=80=93 having a new replacement battery will pr=
ovide the peace of mind!]
----------------
All the best,
Al Fuller
=2Eteam.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HD6s cont'd & Battery life.
You can test a battery with a load tester:
https://www.amazon.com/TOPDON-BT100-Automotive-Alternator-Motorcycle/dp/B07=
Z67MMGC/ref=3Dsr_1_2_sspa?keywords=3Dbattery+tester <https://www.amazon.com=
/TOPDON-BT100-Automotive-Alternator-Motorcycle/dp/B07Z67MMGC/ref=3Dsr_1_2_s=
spa?keywords=3Dbattery+tester&qid=3D1683641685&sr=3D8-2-spons&psc=3D1&spLa=
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683641685&sr=3D8-2-spons&psc=3D1&spLa=3DZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzRkFBT1V=
DTjZYNlgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2NTI1ODcyN0ZVNTNMRFQ3R1M2JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QT=
A1NzE0MjNLR0pDTlhCRjJCREEmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY=
3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
And/or a modern analyzer:
https://www.amazon.com/TOPDON-BT100-Automotive-Alternator-Motorcycle/dp/B07=
Z67MMGC/ref=3Dsr_1_2_sspa?keywords=3Dbattery+tester <https://www.amazon.com=
/TOPDON-BT100-Automotive-Alternator-Motorcycle/dp/B07Z67MMGC/ref=3Dsr_1_2_s=
spa?keywords=3Dbattery+tester&qid=3D1683641685&sr=3D8-2-spons&psc=3D1&spLa=
=3DZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzRkFBT1VDTjZYNlgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2NTI1ODcy=
N0ZVNTNMRFQ3R1M2JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA1NzE0MjNLR0pDTlhCRjJCREEmd2lkZ2V0TmF=
tZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl> &qid=3D1=
683641685&sr=3D8-2-spons&psc=3D1&spLa=3DZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzRkFBT1V=
DTjZYNlgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2NTI1ODcyN0ZVNTNMRFQ3R1M2JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QT=
A1NzE0MjNLR0pDTlhCRjJCREEmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY=
3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
=2E.. to get an idea of you battery's condition. However, I just had a batt=
ery that would pass fine on both but still drain more quickly just sitting =
than it should (I had a 60mA current draw). At 10 years old, and a longer, =
important trip coming up I would get a new one on principle; you got your m=
oney's worth on this one. It's hard to beat an AGM, but they're expensive.
Bob
On 5/9/2023 3:27 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
Hit the wrong button. Didn=E2=80=99t finish=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6
I am too idle to take the 3 carbs out to check the diaphragms out and to de=
cide whether they need replacing or not. And, would I be able to tell anywa=
y? Not sure about that.
The issue came into contemplation because I=E2=80=99m going over to the Le =
Mans classic in June. It=E2=80=99s no great drive=E2=80=A6about 2=C2=BD +/=
- from the port but I think it sensible to sort a few things out first? I s=
uppose that I=E2=80=99ll have to do it!
Another topic=E2=80=A6.my car=E2=80=99s battery is 10 years old. Bought it =
in France on the Route de Grandes Alpes trip. It shows no signs of its age =
but then nor did its predecessor before it gave up very rapidly. Didn=E2=80=
=99t fade away, just died. Any thoughts on that. I=E2=80=99m not a fan of p=
lanned redundancy but it=E2=80=99s occasionally prudent=E2=80=A6?
Simon
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1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Simon:=C2=A0 I=E2=
=80=99m going to chime in here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Battery people will tell you that a =
conventional lead acid auto starting battery loses about 10% of it=E2=80=99=
s capacity every year.=C2=A0 So after a certain time, they may still be cap=
able of cranking the engine, but not with as much gusto as when new =E2=80=
=93 and it is constantly decreasing in efficiency. =C2=A0It=E2=80=99s my op=
inion that after 5 =E2=80=93 6 years, one has already won that battle, and =
that anything longer is a bonus, especially over the last few years when ba=
ttery quality in general has gone down at about the same pace as prices hav=
e gone up.=C2=A0 Al mentioned peace of mind =E2=80=93 if it were me with a =
10 year old battery, I wouldn=E2=80=99t spend money on a load test, better =
put it towards a new battery.=C2=A0 Or at least be prepared to maybe have t=
o do it on the road as you did before. =C2=A0Others may disagree.<o:p></o:p=
></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Re=
: the carb jets:=C2=A0 The advice that you got from Burlen =E2=80=93 and ma=
ybe others - is good. The trouble is that it=E2=80=99s impossible to predic=
t when that first jet diaphragm will start to seep slightly, or whether or =
not it will rapidly turn into a tear that will mean not driving the car unt=
il it=E2=80=99s fixed.=C2=A0 Personally, I get a bit nervous about my jet d=
iaphragms at about 10 years, but that=E2=80=99s just me.=C2=A0 The older I =
get, the more that peace of mind matters to me =E2=80=93 especially with ol=
d British sports cars!=C2=A0 Once again, others may disagree.=C2=A0 Your ca=
ll.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0=
pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:14.0pt'>A little trick:=C2=A0 If you ever suspect that a diaphragm is st=
arting to leak,=C2=A0 disconnect that carb=E2=80=99s choke system so that t=
he diaphragm doesn=E2=80=99t flex when the choke is operated.=C2=A0 The car=
will start cold on the other carb(s).=C2=A0 This gives you a better chance=
of getting the car home, or to a repair facility.=C2=A0 Try hard to ignore=
any gas dripping very close to your lap. (even closer in LHD Healeys). Bee=
n there, done that!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Let us know how it goes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></sp=
an></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Earl Kagna<o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Vic=
toria, BC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:14.0pt'>BT7, BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D=
'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><=
div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0=
in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox=
=2Eteam.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>alfuller194@gmail.com<br><b>Sent:</b> T=
uesday, May 9, 2023 11:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Bob Spidell' <bspidell@comca=
st.net>; healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] HD6s co=
nt'd & Battery life.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:=
p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Simon =E2=80=93 I agree with Bob tha=
t your next step may/should be to have the battery tested, and would add th=
e following:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal>Don=E2=80=99t forget that starting the car is only half of t=
he battery=E2=80=99s job. Once started, the car will run on the output from=
the alternator or generator [possibly with a bit of filtering from the bat=
tery] =E2=80=93 and the battery is there as a backup so the car doesn=E2=80=
=99t die suddenly immediately upon loss of generating capacity [or over-vol=
tage, or short-circuit, or other issues=E2=80=A6].<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As such =E2=80=93 ha=
ving tested the battery should provide peace of mind! [And if it fails the =
test =E2=80=93 having a new replacement battery will provide the peace of m=
ind!]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>----------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>All the be=
st,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal>Al Fuller<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p><=
/p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.=
0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>=
; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 9, 2023 7:22=
AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.t=
eam.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] HD6s cont'd & Battery life=
=2E<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>You can test a battery with a load tester:<br><br><a href=
=3D"https://www.amazon.com/TOPDON-BT100-Automotive-Alternator-Motorcycle/dp=
/B07Z67MMGC/ref=3Dsr_1_2_sspa?keywords=3Dbattery+tester&qid=3D168364168=
5&sr=3D8-2-spons&psc=3D1&spLa=3DZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzRkF=
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XJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl">https://www.amazon.com/TOPDON-BT100-Automo=
tive-Alternator-Motorcycle/dp/B07Z67MMGC/ref=3Dsr_1_2_sspa?keywords=3Dbatte=
ry+tester&qid=3D1683641685&sr=3D8-2-spons&psc=3D1&spLa=3DZW=
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cF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl</a><br><br>And=
/or a modern analyzer:<br><br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/TOPDON-BT10=
0-Automotive-Alternator-Motorcycle/dp/B07Z67MMGC/ref=3Dsr_1_2_sspa?keywords=
=3Dbattery+tester&qid=3D1683641685&sr=3D8-2-spons&psc=3D1&s=
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TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl">https=
://www.amazon.com/TOPDON-BT100-Automotive-Alternator-Motorcycle/dp/B07Z67MM=
GC/ref=3Dsr_1_2_sspa?keywords=3Dbattery+tester&qid=3D1683641685&sr=
=3D8-2-spons&psc=3D1&spLa=3DZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzRkFBT1VDTjZ=
YNlgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2NTI1ODcyN0ZVNTNMRFQ3R1M2JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA1Nz=
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G9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>...=
to get an idea of you battery's condition. However, I just had a battery t=
hat would pass fine on both but still drain more quickly just sitting than =
it should (I had a 60mA current draw). At 10 years old, and a longer, impor=
tant trip coming up I would get a new one on principle; you got your money'=
s worth on this one. It's hard to beat an AGM, but they're expensive.<br><b=
r>Bob<br><br><br><br>On 5/9/2023 3:27 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:<=
o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0=
pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hit the wrong button. Didn=E2=80=99t finish=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I am too idle to take the 3 carbs out to c=
heck the diaphragms out and to decide whether they need replacing or not. A=
nd, would I be able to tell anyway? Not sure about that.<o:p></o:p></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The issue came i=
nto contemplation because I=E2=80=99m going over to the Le Mans classic in =
June. It=E2=80=99s no great drive=E2=80=A6about 2=C2=BD +/- from the =
port but I think it sensible to sort a few things out first? I suppose that=
I=E2=80=99ll have to do it!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Another topic=E2=80=A6.my car=E2=80=99s batt=
ery is 10 years old. Bought it in France on the Route de Grandes Alpes trip=
=2E It shows no signs of its age but then nor did its predecessor before it=
gave up very rapidly. Didn=E2=80=99t fade away, just died. Any thoughts on=
that. I=E2=80=99m not a fan of planned redundancy but it=E2=80=99s occasio=
nally prudent=E2=80=A6?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></b=
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