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Re: [Healeys] Westminster block

To: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Westminster block
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 09:16:38 +0800
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sorry, yes I should clarify a later head will fit on the 1006 motor... but
Patrick is right, better stick with what you have ... honestly for road use
there's not a huge amount of difference without spending alot of dosh to
port the motor, components, etc.,

On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 9:09 AM Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> I get the impression that many think that the C-Series engine blocks
> fitted to the 100/6 and 3000 Austin-Healeys is something special.
>
>
>
> Fraid not!
>
>
>
> As far as I know there are four different castings for the C-Series
> (ignoring the MGC design). I am happy to be corrected.
>
>
>
> Namely:-
>
>
>
> The initial 2639cc casting that had a smooth sided crankcase and fitted a=
s
> early as 1954 to Morris, Wolseley and Austin engine including one
> Austin-Healey =E2=80=93 mine. This same casting  was later fitted to the =
Longbridge
> built 100/6s.
>
> The second 2639cc casting with strengthening braces in the crankcase that
> were fitted to the Abingdon built 100/6 and the broad range of BMC saloon=
s
> including the Westminster.
>
> The first 2912cc casting that was fitted to the 3000 as well as BMC
> six-cylinder saloons. At that time BMC six-cylinder saloons were also
> offered with 2,639cc powerplants.
>
> The second 2912cc casting as fitted to almost all the BJ8s. Such a castin=
g
> was also fitted to BMC saloons.
>
>
>
> I am also ignoring the differing cylinder head designs, camshaft grinds,
> smaller capacity engines for sale in the French market and so on.
>
>
>
> If I wanted to build up a special road engine the starting point would to
> be sure that the engine is a 2912cc casting.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Simon
> Lachlan via Healeys
> *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2023 5:59 AM
> *To:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Westminster block
>
>
>
> For ages I=E2=80=99ve been thinking of buying a 3000 engine and doing it =
up to a
> fairly high spec. Nothing too clever, definitely a road car version. But =
I
> always hang back when I see the prices of whole engines.
>
> And, it strikes me, that one will probably have to ditch most of the
> moving parts so why buy them in the first place?
>
> Maybe buy a block and add the rest as and when. Some from eBay, some from
> the usual suspects=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6
>
> Tell me please:- am I right in my assumption that a Westminster block is
> as near as makes no difference to a 3000 block? And that the main
> differences in the engines would be in the moving parts and the head?
>
> ie isn=E2=80=99t a Westie block as good a place to start as any?
>
> I ask this as there is a very presentable looking block up for sale near
> me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">sorry, yes I should clarify a later head will fit on the 1=
006 motor... but Patrick is right, better stick with what you have ... hone=
stly for road use there&#39;s not a huge amount of difference without spend=
ing alot=C2=A0of dosh to port the motor, components, etc.,</div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2=
023 at 9:09 AM Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg302407261=
8277183155"><div lang=3D"EN-AU" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div c=
lass=3D"m_3024072618277183155WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello<u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">I get the impression that many think that the C-Series engine bloc=
ks fitted to the 100/6 and 3000 Austin-Healeys is something special.<u></u>=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">Fraid not!<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">As far as I know there are four different cast=
ings for the C-Series (ignoring the MGC design). I am happy to be corrected=
.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Namely:-<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The initial 2639cc casting that had a =
smooth sided crankcase and fitted as early as 1954 to Morris, Wolseley and =
Austin engine including one Austin-Healey =E2=80=93 mine. This same casting=
 =C2=A0was later fitted to the Longbridge built 100/6s.<u></u><u></u></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">The second 2639cc casting with strengthening braces in=
 the crankcase that were fitted to the Abingdon built 100/6 and the broad r=
ange of BMC saloons including the Westminster.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">The first 2912cc casting that was fitted to the 3000 as well as=
 BMC six-cylinder saloons. At that time BMC six-cylinder saloons were also =
offered with 2,639cc powerplants.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">T=
he second 2912cc casting as fitted to almost all the BJ8s. Such a casting w=
as also fitted to BMC saloons.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am also ignoring the differing=
 cylinder head designs, camshaft grinds, smaller capacity engines for sale =
in the French market and so on.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">If I wanted to build up a speci=
al road engine the starting point would to be sure that the engine is a 291=
2cc casting.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hoo Roo<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Patrick Quinn<u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Blue Mountains, Australia<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-l=
eft:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon La=
chlan via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 20, 2023 5:59 AM<br><b>T=
o:</b> &#39;Healeys&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] W=
estminster block<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">For ag=
es I=E2=80=99ve been thinking of buying a 3000 engine and doing it up to a =
fairly high spec. Nothing too clever, definitely a road car version. But I =
always hang back when I see the prices of whole engines.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">And, it strikes me, that =
one will probably have to ditch most of the moving parts so why buy them in=
 the first place?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB">Maybe buy a block and add the rest as and when. Some from eBay, =
some from the usual suspects=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Tell me please:- am I right in my a=
ssumption that a Westminster block is as near as makes no difference to a 3=
000 block? And that the main differences in the engines would be in the mov=
ing parts and the head?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-GB">ie isn=E2=80=99t a Westie block as good a place to start a=
s any?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=
I ask this as there is a very presentable looking block up for sale near me=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Thank=
s,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Simo=
n<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></=
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