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To: <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>, "'Healeys'" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Westminster block
From: Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 11:55:28 +1100
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Hello

 

I get the impression that many think that the C-Series engine blocks fitted
to the 100/6 and 3000 Austin-Healeys is something special.

 

Fraid not!

 

As far as I know there are four different castings for the C-Series
(ignoring the MGC design). I am happy to be corrected.

 

Namely:-

 

The initial 2639cc casting that had a smooth sided crankcase and fitted as
early as 1954 to Morris, Wolseley and Austin engine including one
Austin-Healey - mine. This same casting  was later fitted to the Longbridge
built 100/6s.

The second 2639cc casting with strengthening braces in the crankcase that
were fitted to the Abingdon built 100/6 and the broad range of BMC saloons
including the Westminster.

The first 2912cc casting that was fitted to the 3000 as well as BMC
six-cylinder saloons. At that time BMC six-cylinder saloons were also
offered with 2,639cc powerplants.

The second 2912cc casting as fitted to almost all the BJ8s. Such a casting
was also fitted to BMC saloons.

 

I am also ignoring the differing cylinder head designs, camshaft grinds,
smaller capacity engines for sale in the French market and so on.

 

If I wanted to build up a special road engine the starting point would to be
sure that the engine is a 2912cc casting.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan
via Healeys
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 5:59 AM
To: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Westminster block

 

For ages I've been thinking of buying a 3000 engine and doing it up to a
fairly high spec. Nothing too clever, definitely a road car version. But I
always hang back when I see the prices of whole engines.

And, it strikes me, that one will probably have to ditch most of the moving
parts so why buy them in the first place?

Maybe buy a block and add the rest as and when. Some from eBay, some from
the usual suspects..

Tell me please:- am I right in my assumption that a Westminster block is as
near as makes no difference to a 3000 block? And that the main differences
in the engines would be in the moving parts and the head?

ie isn't a Westie block as good a place to start as any?

I ask this as there is a very presentable looking block up for sale near me.

Thanks,

Simon

 



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1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hello<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I get the impression that many think that th=
e C-Series engine blocks fitted to the 100/6 and 3000 Austin-Healeys is som=
ething special.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Fraid not!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As far as I know there are four different ca=
stings for the C-Series (ignoring the MGC design). I am happy to be correct=
ed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal>Namely:-<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>The initial 2639cc casting that had a smooth sided crankca=
se and fitted as early as 1954 to Morris, Wolseley and Austin engine includ=
ing one Austin-Healey &#8211; mine. This same casting &nbsp;was later fitte=
d to the Longbridge built 100/6s.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The se=
cond 2639cc casting with strengthening braces in the crankcase that were fi=
tted to the Abingdon built 100/6 and the broad range of BMC saloons includi=
ng the Westminster.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The first 2912cc cas=
ting that was fitted to the 3000 as well as BMC six-cylinder saloons. At th=
at time BMC six-cylinder saloons were also offered with 2,639cc powerplants=
=2E<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The second 2912cc casting as fitted =
to almost all the BJ8s. Such a casting was also fitted to BMC saloons.<o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am also ignoring the differing cylinder head designs, camshaft grinds, smal=
ler capacity engines for sale in the French market and so on.<o:p></o:p></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If I wanted=
 to build up a special road engine the starting point would to be sure that=
 the engine is a 2912cc casting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal>Blue Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><d=
iv style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0c=
m 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-fareast-lang=
uage:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-fareast-languag=
e:EN-AU'> Healeys &lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </=
b>Simon Lachlan via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 20, 2023 5:59 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b=
> [Healeys] Westminster block<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>For a=
ges I&#8217;ve been thinking of buying a 3000 engine and doing it up to a f=
airly high spec. Nothing too clever, definitely a road car version. But I a=
lways hang back when I see the prices of whole engines.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>And, it strikes me, that one will=
 probably have to ditch most of the moving parts so why buy them in the fir=
st place?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Mayb=
e buy a block and add the rest as and when. Some from eBay, some from the u=
sual suspects&#8230;&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB>Tell me please:- am I right in my assumption that a Westminst=
er block is as near as makes no difference to a 3000 block? And that the ma=
in differences in the engines would be in the moving parts and the head?<o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>ie isn&#8217;t a=
 Westie block as good a place to start as any?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>I ask this as there is a very presentable =
looking block up for sale near me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=
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