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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
From: "E.A. Driver via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 13:32:00 -0600
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Hi Mirek

You speak for yourself and a limited few not for all the individuals who 
are subscribers to the Healey list and either do not wish to comment or 
find Josef views quite acceptable and see not need to comment.  In 
reading Josef's post of October 7th (which appears at the bottom of this 
page) it is very concise and well stated. Further, the individual 
driving the BN1/2 may have decided to avoid an accident but had not 
judged the verge of the road correctly (and all the related factors 
including his reflexes as an 82 year old person).

Kind regards
Ed

E.A. Driver (former Historian and Director, AHCUSA)
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan


On 08/10/2022 08:57, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> Guys, let it be.  Josef has been clear on how he feels and we have 
> collectively told him what we think of his opinions.  There will be no 
> changing his mind, so lets accept that he lives by a different moral 
> code that none of us (at least those that posted replies), agree with, 
> and get back to using the list for providing mutual support to keep 
> our Healeys on the road.
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Tom 
> Felts via Healeys
> *Sent:* October 8, 2022 6:18 AM
> *To:* Gil Rockwell <gilrockwell@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>
> I haven't!!  But this will be MY last comment about this. Josef YOU 
> ARE A COMPLETE ASS HOLE!  Admin---delete me if you want, but there are 
> times to say exactly what is needed to be said.
>
> Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> To: josef-eckert@t-online.de, healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
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> Iâ??ve said enough, you donâ??t seem to get it, so I am ending this 
> conversation.
>
> Gil
>
> *From:*josef-eckert@t-online.de <josef-eckert@t-online.de>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Cc:* gilrockwell@gmail.com
> *Subject:* WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>
> So it isn´t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth?
>
> Is that the world you are living?
>
> But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car 
> lost control of his vehicle while driving in Italy, drove into a ditch 
> and killed himself and his wife in an accident.
> Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have 
> collided with another road user which can be very likely and this 
> would have been injured or killed.
> The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested 
> the person who caused the accident immediately, the car would have 
> been confiscated and the driver's license would have been withdrawn 
> forever. No mercy!
> The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably 
> not have been happy with his life anymore.
> Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a 
> situation.It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through 
> hubris, to submit to such a danger.
> I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as 
> well, as is customary in Italy.
>
> Josef
>
> 54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: RE: [Healeyâ??s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>
> Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200
>
>
>
> In a polite society if you donâ??t have anything positive to say, just 
> be quiet,  your negative comments help no one.  Perhaps when you grow 
> in age, you will come to understand.
>
> Gil
>
> 61 BT7
>
> *Sent:*Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM
> *To:*Gil Rockwell <gilrockwell@gmail.com 
> *Subject:*AW: [Healeyâ??s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>
> Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion.
>
> We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to 
> the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other..
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: RE: [Healeyâ??s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>
> Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200
>
>
>
> Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all.  What you have 
> said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional.
>
> Gil
>
> 61 BT7
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net 
> *josef-eckert--- via Healeys
> *Sent:*Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM
> *Subject:*Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
>
> I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she 
> is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a 
> silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age.
> Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent.
>
> Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not 
> my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in 
> German language.
>
> Josef Eckert
> Königswinter GERMANY
>
>
> Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App
>
> --- Original-Nachricht ---
> Von: HealeyRick via Healeys
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
> Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59
> An: Randy Hicks
> Cc: Healey List
>
>
> I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to 
> read some of the comments about this accident.  She and her dad seemed 
> to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be 
> grieving right now: 
> https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux
>  
> <https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux>
>
>
> Rick Neville
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys 
>
> Awful.
>
>
> https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/
>  
> <https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/>
>
>
> Randy
>
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    Hi Mirek <br>
    <br>
    You speak for yourself and a limited few not for all the individuals
    who are subscribers to the Healey list and either do not wish to
    comment or find Josef views quite acceptable and see not need to
    comment.  In reading Josef's post of October 7th (which appears at
    the bottom of this page) it is very concise and well stated. 
    Further, the individual driving the BN1/2 may have decided to avoid
    an accident but had not judged the verge of the road correctly (and
    all the related factors including his reflexes as an 82 year old
    person).<br>
    <br>
    Kind regards<br>
    Ed<br>
    <br>
    E.A. Driver (former Historian and Director, AHCUSA)<br>
    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/10/2022 08:57, m.g.sharp--- via
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Guys,
            let it be.  Josef has been clear on how he feels and we have
            collectively told him what we think of his opinions.  There
            will be no changing his mind, so lets accept that he lives
            by a different moral code that none of us (at least those
            that posted replies), agree with, and get back to using the
            list for providing mutual support to keep our Healeys on the
            road.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers,
            Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Healeys
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Tom Felts via Healeys<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> October 8, 2022 6:18 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Gil Rockwell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:gilrockwell@gmail.com";>&lt;gilrockwell@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed
                in Healey 100<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I
              haven't!!  But this will be MY last comment about this. 
              Josef YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASS HOLE!  Admin---delete me if
              you want, but there are times to say exactly what is
              needed to be said.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-----
              Original Message -----<br>
              From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
              To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>, <a 
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
              Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT)<br>
              Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in
              Healey 100<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>&lt;josef-eckert@t-online.de&gt;</a> <br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:gilrockwell@gmail.com";>gilrockwell@gmail.com</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in
                  Healey 100<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">So
              it isn´t allowed to say anything negative, even its the
              truth?</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <div>
            <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Is
                that the world you are living?</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <pre><span class="y2iqfc"><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN">But to 
get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of 
his vehicle while </span></span><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN">
<span class="y2iqfc">driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself 
and his wife in an accident.</span></span><span 
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
            <pre><span class="y2iqfc"><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN">Let's 
assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with 
another road user which can be very likely and </span></span><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN">
<span class="y2iqfc">this would have been injured or killed.</span></span><span 
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
            <pre><span class="y2iqfc"><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN">The 
police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person 
who caused the </span></span><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN">
<span class="y2iqfc">accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated 
and the driver's license would have been </span>
<span class="y2iqfc">withdrawn forever. No mercy!</span></span><span 
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
            <pre><span class="y2iqfc"><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN">The 
driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been 
happy with his life anymore.</span></span><span 
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
            <pre><span class="y2iqfc"><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN">Someone 
who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation.</span></span><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN">
<span class="y2iqfc">It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through 
hubris, to submit to such a danger.</span></span><span 
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
            <pre id="tw-target-text"><span class="y2iqfc"><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN">I don't 
want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is 
customary in Italy.</span></span><span 
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
            <div>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Josef</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">54
                  100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-----Original-Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Betreff:
                  RE: [Healeyâ??s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey
                  100<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Datum:
                  2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Von:
                  "Gil Rockwell" &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:gilrockwell@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
                    
moz-do-not-send="true">gilrockwell@gmail.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">An:
                  "<a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";
                    target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>"
                  &lt;<a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";
                    target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>&gt;,
                  "<a href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>" &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt;,
                  "'Forum Healey'" &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
                    
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">In
                      a polite society if you donâ??t have anything
                      positive to say, just be quiet,  your negative
                      comments help no one.  Perhaps when you grow in
                      age, you will come to understand.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Gil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">61
                        BT7<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <div>
                    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                      1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a
                            href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";
                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>
                          &lt;<a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";
                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>&gt;
                          <br>
                        </span><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</span></strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                          Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM<br>
                        </span><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">To:</span></strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                          Gil Rockwell &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:gilrockwell@gmail.com";
                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">gilrockwell@gmail.com</a>&gt;;
                          <a href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";
                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>;
                          Forum Healey &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                        </span><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                          AW: [Healeyâ??s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in
                          Healey 100<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Why?
                      Just because you do not like to hear my 
opinion.</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">We
                      are still living in a free world and opinions,
                      even different to the own, should be allowed
                      without shouting against each other..</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-----Original-Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Betreff:
                      RE: [Healeyâ??s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in
                      Healey 100<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Datum:
                      2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Von:
                      "Gil Rockwell" &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:gilrockwell@gmail.com";
                        target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">gilrockwell@gmail.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">An:
                      "<a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";
                        target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>"
                      &lt;<a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";
                        target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>&gt;,
                      "<a href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";
                        target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>"
                      &lt;<a href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";
                        target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt;,
                      "'Forum Healey'" &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                        target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p style="margin:0cm"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Then
                          I respectfully suggest that you not write at
                          all.  What you have said is completely
                          disrespectful and 
unprofessional.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Gil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">61
                          BT7<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                        1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                            Healeys &lt;<a
                              href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
                              target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                          </span><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On
                              Behalf Of </span></strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">josef-eckert---
                            via Healeys<br>
                          </span><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</span></strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                            Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM<br>
                          </span><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">To:</span></strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a
                              href="mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";
                              target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>;
                            Forum Healey &lt;<a
                              href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                              target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                          </span><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                            Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in
                            Healey 100<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I
                          do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs
                          Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she
                          better would have kept her parents from doing
                          such a silly thing as a multi day rally or
                          planned drive in their high age. <br>
                          Now she even lost her mother, who was
                          definitely innocent. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Sorry,
                          when it sounds harsh what I write, but English
                          language is not my mother tongue and I write
                          this in English as I would write it in German
                          language. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Josef
                          Eckert <br>
                          Königswinter GERMANY <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><br>
                          Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">---
                          Original-Nachricht --- <br>
                          Von: HealeyRick via Healeys <br>
                          Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist
                          Killed in Healey 100 <br>
                          Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 <br>
                          An: Randy Hicks <br>
                          Cc: Healey List <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><br>
                          I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn,
                          would be too pleased to read some of the
                          comments about this accident.  She and her dad
                          seemed to have a lovely relationship based on
                          classic cars and she must be grieving right
                          now: <a
href="https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux";
                            target="_blank" 
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