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Subject: [Healeys] WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
From: josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 03:42:59 +0200 (CEST)
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So it isn=C2=B4t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth?
Is that the world you are living?

But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost c=
ontrol of his vehicle while=20
driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an =
accident.
Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided=
 with another road user which can be very likely and=20
this would have been injured or killed.
The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the =
person who caused the=20
accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's =
license would have been=20
withdrawn forever. No mercy!
The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not ha=
ve been happy with his life anymore.
Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation.
It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to=
 such a danger.

I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well=
, as is customary in Italy.

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Josef
54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars
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Betreff: RE: [Healey=E2=80=99s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200
Von: "Gil Rockwell" <gilrockwell@gmail.com>
An: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" <josef-eckert@t-online.de>,=20
"healeyrik@gmail.com" <healeyrik@gmail.com>, "'Forum Healey'"=20
<healeys@autox.team.net>
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In a polite society if you don=E2=80=99t have anything positive to say, jus=
t be=20
quiet,  your negative comments help no one.  Perhaps when you grow in age,=
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you will come to understand. =20

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Gil

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61 BT7

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From: josef-eckert@t-online.de <josef-eckert@t-online.de>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM
To: Gil Rockwell <gilrockwell@gmail.com>; healeyrik@gmail.com; Forum Healey=
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<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: AW: [Healey=E2=80=99s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

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Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion.
We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the=20
own, should be allowed without shouting against each other..
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Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200
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Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all.  What you have said=
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is completely disrespectful and unprofessional.

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Gil

61 BT7

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
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Healeys
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

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I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is=20
grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly=20
thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age.
Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent.

Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my=20
mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German=20
language.

Josef Eckert
K=C3=B6nigswinter GERMANY




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--- Original-Nachricht ---
Von: HealeyRick via Healeys
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59
An: Randy Hicks
Cc: Healey List


I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read=
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some of the comments about this accident.  She and her dad seemed to have a=
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lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right=20
now:=20
<https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-wor=
kshop-montreux>


Rick Neville


On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys <

Awful.=20


<https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-ral=
ly-austin-healey/>



Randy

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3DUTF-8"/><title></title></head><body><p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">So it isn&a=
cute;t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth?<br /></span></=
p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Is that the=
 world you are living?</span></p>
<pre class=3D"tw-data-text tw-text-large tw-ta" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"text-a=
lign: left;" data-placeholder=3D"&Uuml;bersetzung"><span class=3D"Y2IQFc" l=
ang=3D"en" style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">But to get =
back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of h=
is vehicle while <br />driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed hims=
elf and his wife in an accident.
Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided=
 with another road user which can be very likely and <br />this would have =
been injured or killed.
The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the =
person who caused the <br />accident immediately, the car would have been c=
onfiscated and the driver's license would have been <br />withdrawn forever=
. No mercy!
The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not ha=
ve been happy with his life anymore.
Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation.<br /><=
/span><span class=3D"Y2IQFc" lang=3D"en" style=3D"font-family: arial, helve=
tica, sans-serif;">It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through h=
ubris, to submit to such a danger.</span></pre>
<pre id=3D"tw-target-text" class=3D"tw-data-text tw-text-large tw-ta" dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"text-align: left;" data-placeholder=3D"&Uuml;bersetzung">=
<span class=3D"Y2IQFc" lang=3D"en" style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif;">I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was =
drunk as well, as is customary in Italy.</span></pre>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Josef</span=
></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">54 100, 62 =
BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">&nbsp;</spa=
n></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: RE: [Healey&rsquo;s] Sad news - Rallyist=
 Killed in Healey 100</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Gil Rockwell" &lt;gilrockwell@gmail.com&gt;=
</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "josef-eckert@t-online.de" &lt;josef-eckert@t=
-online.de&gt;, "healeyrik@gmail.com" &lt;healeyrik@gmail.com&gt;, "'Forum =
Healey'" &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
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<div class=3D"WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In a polite society if you don&rsquo;t have anything=
 positive to say, just be quiet,&nbsp; your negative comments help no one.&=
nbsp; Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand. &nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Gil</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">61 BT7</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
 0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> josef-eckert@t-online.de &lt;=
josef-eckert@t-online.de&gt; <br /><strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, October 0=
7, 2022 3:55 PM<br /><strong>To:</strong> Gil Rockwell &lt;gilrockwell@gmai=
l.com&gt;; healeyrik@gmail.com; Forum Healey &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;=
<br /><strong>Subject:</strong> AW: [Healey&rsquo;s] Sad news - Rallyist Ki=
lled in Healey 100</p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'A=
rial',sans-serif; color: black;">Why? Just because you do not like to hear =
my opinion.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'A=
rial',sans-serif; color: black;">We are still living in a free world and op=
inions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting again=
st each other..</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'A=
rial',sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: RE: [Healey&rsquo;s] Sad news - Rallyist=
 Killed in Healey 100</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Gil Rockwell" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gilrock=
well@gmail.com">gilrockwell@gmail.com</a>&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>=
josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.d=
e">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>&gt;, "<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com=
">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>heale=
yrik@gmail.com</a>&gt;, "'Forum Healey'" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom=
-alt: auto;">Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all.&nbsp; W=
hat you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom=
-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom=
-alt: auto;">Gil</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom=
-alt: auto;">61 BT7</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom=
-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
 0in 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom=
-alt: auto;"><strong><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Fro=
m:</span></strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team=
.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <strong><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">On Behalf Of </span></strong>josef-eckert--- v=
ia Healeys<br /><strong><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">=
Sent:</span></strong> Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM<br /><strong><span =
style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> <a href=3D=
"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>; Forum Healey &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br /><=
strong><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Subject:</span></=
strong> Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom=
-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-bottom: 12=
.0pt;">I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she=
 is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a sill=
y thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. <br />Now =
she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. <br /><br />Sorry, w=
hen it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother ton=
gue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. <br=
 /><br />Josef Eckert <br />K&ouml;nigswinter GERMANY <br /><br /><br /><br=
 /><br />Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App <br /><br /><br /><br />--- Orig=
inal-Nachricht --- <br />Von: HealeyRick via Healeys <br />Betreff: Re: [He=
aleys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 <br />Datum: 07. Oktober 20=
22, 13:59 <br />An: Randy Hicks <br />Cc: Healey List <br /><br /><br />I d=
on't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read som=
e of the comments about this accident.&nbsp; She and her dad seemed to have=
 a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right=
 now:&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-=
daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux">https://www.classicdriver.com/en/artic=
le/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux</a> <br /><br /><br />Ri=
ck Neville <br /><br /><br />On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via=
 Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote: <br /><br />Awful.&nbsp; <br /><br /><br /><a href=3D"htt=
ps://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-a=
ustin-healey/">https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-ho=
rror-crash-rally-austin-healey/</a> <br /><br /><br />Randy <br /><br />___=
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