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To: Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine lift
From: HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 13:56:02 -0400
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Having done this a few times, I'd install the engine and trans together.
Getting the trans lined up requires a lot of rotational twisting of a heavy
trans.  No thanks.

Rick Neville

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On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:58 PM Bruce Steele via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Having pulled and installed the engine and trans as a unit twice and the
> trans once, I=E2=80=99m of the opinion that installing the engine without=
 the trans
> is probably easier as far as the engine itself goes.  The clearances
> between the top of the bellhousing and the firewall and the crank pulley
> and front cross member are small, requiring a lot of finesse and small
> adjustments to wiggle the unit in place.  Plus someone with a strong back
> and a belt under the tail of the trans/OD is needed to lift it up over th=
e
> X brace.  However if done separately, you=E2=80=99d have to get the fore-=
aft
> vertical alignment right and then support the aft end of the engine while
> you align the input shaft to the pilot bearing and bolt the bellhousing t=
o
> the engine.  That  was no piece of cake for me when I had the trans out
> with the engine in place.  On balance, I=E2=80=99d rather connect the eng=
ine and
> trans out of the car and install them as a unit.  But that=E2=80=99s just=
 me.
>
>
>
> Bruce Steele
>
> Brea, CA
>
> 1960 BN7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Mi=
chael
> MacLean
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2022 1:30 AM
> *To:* Roland Wilhelmy <sentenac.rw@gmail.com>; Ahealey help <
> healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Engine lift
>
>
>
> How difficult is it to drop the engine in first then the trans through th=
e
> passenger compartment?
>
> Mike macLean
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 8:07 PM Roland Wilhelmy <sentenac.rw@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Mike, I R&Rd both a six and a four by myself. You can do it too. If it
> doesn't look right or feel right just back everything up and start over
> when you are fresh. Cover the shroud and the opening with towels or mover=
s
> blankets to give you another quarter inch to change your mind. With the
> engine and tranny combo you will be tilting the engine a lot. Either rais=
e
> the car an inch or so or be prepared to crawl underneath and pull the
> tranny tail back. Watch the sheet metal interface with the engine block.
>
> -Roland
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, 4:15 PM Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have a cherry picker and a load leveler to lift the engine for my BN2.
> What's the best way to attach the lift to the engine to install it in the
> car?
>
> Mike MacLean
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Having done this a few times, I&#39;d install the engine a=
nd trans together.=C2=A0 Getting the trans lined up requires a lot of rotat=
ional twisting of a heavy trans.=C2=A0 No thanks.<div><br></div><div>Rick N=
eville</div></div><div id=3D"DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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t=3D"1"></a></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:58 PM Bruce Steele via Healeys &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D=
"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_7160601045095779544WordSection1"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">=
Having pulled and installed the engine and trans as a unit twice and the tr=
ans once, I=E2=80=99m of the opinion that installing the engine without the=
 trans is probably easier as far as the engine itself goes.=C2=A0 The clear=
ances between the top of the bellhousing and the firewall and the crank pul=
ley and front cross member are small, requiring a lot of finesse and small =
adjustments to wiggle the unit in place.=C2=A0 Plus someone with a strong b=
ack and a belt under the tail of the trans/OD is needed to lift it up over =
the X brace.=C2=A0 However if done separately, you=E2=80=99d have to get th=
e fore-aft vertical alignment right and then support the aft end of the eng=
ine while you align the input shaft to the pilot bearing and bolt the bellh=
ousing to the engine.=C2=A0 That =C2=A0was no piece of cake for me when I h=
ad the trans out with the engine in place.=C2=A0 On balance, I=E2=80=99d ra=
ther connect the engine and trans out of the car and install them as a unit=
.=C2=A0 But that=E2=80=99s just me.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">Bruce Steele<u></u><u></u></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot=
;,sans-serif">Brea, CA<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif">1960 BN7<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tr=
ebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Fr=
om:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"=
> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael=
 MacLean<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 27, 2022 1:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> Rol=
and Wilhelmy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sentenac.rw@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
>sentenac.rw@gmail.com</a>&gt;; Ahealey help &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subj=
ect:</b> Re: [Healeys] Engine lift<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">How difficu=
lt is it to drop the engine in first then the trans through the passenger c=
ompartment?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike macLean=
<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 8:07 PM Roland W=
ilhelmy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sentenac.rw@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">sent=
enac.rw@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=
=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right=
:0in"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike, I R&amp;Rd both a six and a four by=
 myself. You can do it too. If it doesn&#39;t look right or feel right just=
 back everything up and start over when you are fresh. Cover the shroud and=
 the opening with towels or movers blankets to give you another quarter inc=
h to change your mind. With the engine and tranny combo you will be tilting=
 the engine a lot. Either raise the car an inch or so or be prepared to cra=
wl underneath and pull the tranny tail back. Watch the sheet metal interfac=
e with the engine block.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>-Roland<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, 4:15 PM Mi=
chael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">springer.mike51@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><bloc=
kquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border=
-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;=
margin-right:0in"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a cherry picker and a =
load leveler to lift the engine for my BN2.=C2=A0 What&#39;s the best way t=
o attach the lift to the engine to install it in the car?<u></u><u></u></p>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike MacLean<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p cl=
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