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To: "'Patrick & Caroline Quinn'" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] It's not the starter
From: Bob Begani via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 08:52:10 -0400
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Patrick:

 

Started many old cars with 6 cylinder and V8 engines as a teenager by taking
out the spark plugs and putting light machine oil in the cylinders.  Then
with 2 or 3 friends pushing the car down the driveway to gain speed they
will turn over.  Sometimes they even start.  Once we had to use more oil and
push the car very slowly with another car several blocks as the engine
frozen.  Afterwards, it ran well. As your pistons move it should start
easily. If it turns over with the starter afterward but, does not start you
have more to do.

 

Regards,

 

Bob Begani 

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Patrick &
Caroline Quinn via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 7:26 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] It's not the starter

 

Hello

 

A problem to consider.

 

Went to turn the engine over in the BN3. An early C-Series six-cylinder.
Rebuilt about five years back, but seen next to no use.

 

Solenoid clicks, but no movement from the engine. Must be the battery so
charged it, but no change.  Tried a brand new battery, but still no
movement.

 

Out comes the starter and connect it straight to the battery. Whirr away on
the floor. Perhaps the original Lucas starter is breaking down under load?

 

It occurs to me to try and turn the engine over by hand. Gearbox tunnels not
fitted so easy to wield a large screwdriver to leaver the flywheel, after
removing the spark plugs. It moves about six teeth of the ring gear, but no
more. It moves back the same in the other direction, but no further. Soon
lose interest in this manoeuvre. 

 

What's up? Why won't the engine turn over? Thinking cap on and perhaps it's
something at the top of the engine such as valve gear. Perhaps there is a
bent valve?

 

Any opinions out there?

 

Many thanks

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 

 

 

 


 
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Patrick:<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Started many =
old cars with 6 cylinder and V8 engines as a teenager by taking out the =
spark plugs and putting light machine oil in the cylinders.&nbsp; Then =
with 2 or 3 friends pushing the car down the driveway to gain speed they =
will turn over.&nbsp; Sometimes they even start.&nbsp; Once we had to =
use more oil and push the car very slowly with another car several =
blocks as the engine frozen.&nbsp; Afterwards, it ran well. As your =
pistons move it should start easily. If it turns over with the starter =
afterward but, does not start you have more to =
do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Regards,<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bob Begani =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
Healeys &lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May =
22, 2022 7:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Healeys] It's not the starter<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>A problem to consider.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-AU>Went to turn the engine over in the =
BN3. An early C-Series six-cylinder. Rebuilt about five years back, but =
seen next to no use.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Solenoid clicks, but no movement from the engine. Must be =
the battery so charged it, but no change.&nbsp; Tried a brand new =
battery, but still no movement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-AU>Out comes the starter and connect =
it straight to the battery. Whirr away on the floor. Perhaps the =
original Lucas starter is breaking down under =
load?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>It occurs to me to try and turn the engine over by hand. =
Gearbox tunnels not fitted so easy to wield a large screwdriver to =
leaver the flywheel, after removing the spark plugs. It moves about six =
teeth of the ring gear, but no more. It moves back the same in the other =
direction, but no further. Soon lose interest in this manoeuvre. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>What&#8217;s up? Why won&#8217;t the engine turn over? =
Thinking cap on and perhaps it&#8217;s something at the top of the =
engine such as valve gear. Perhaps there is a bent =
valve?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU>Any opinions out there?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-AU>Many thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-AU>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-AU>Blue =
Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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