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Yes, that=E2=80=99s a pretty wretched item.
Simon
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Perry Small =
via Healeys
Sent: 06 April 2022 13:20
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues
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There is a small coil spring in the Lucas battery switch which in my =
experience has been the weak link.=20
P
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 5, 2022, at 10:09 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net =
=EF=BB=BF Plausible. I've rebuilt a battery switch, the contacts are =
pretty beefy copper plates, and I think they'd melt before they'd warp =
and return to shape, but ... plausible.
On 4/5/2022 12:27 PM, Roland Wilhelmy wrote:
The battery switch is on the light duty side but it must carry the full =
starting current. I can imagine that the terminals inside the switch get =
hot and warp just a bit disconnecting the battery. Then if given a =
chance to cool the terminals return to make connection once more. =20
=20
Side note: Roger Moment recommends limiting the length of time running =
the starter when firing up a newly rebuilt engine and getting oil =
pressure, etc. Give the poor switch time to recover.=20
=20
-Roland
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2022, 11:53 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net =
The starter balking is understandable--at least, intuitively--but all=20
the other electricals ceasing to work isn't (assuming the battery is=20
still connected). After all, this isn't a modern car with a PCM, ECU,=20
etc; we're just talking copper wire here. My folks' Lincoln would die=20
when one of the CoPs would put a voltage spike on its primary lead,=20
which would knock the PCM out cold. No such silliness in a Healey.
Just to be contrarian, maybe the starter is causing a dead short, =
somehow?
On 4/5/2022 4:41 AM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
> Perry, the ground is negative. From comments made by others am just =
going to replace the ground strap and with serrated washers so they dig =
into the metal especially on the frame. Will keep all advised.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
Healeys
> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:32 PM
> Subject: [Healeys] Starter electrical issues
>
> Bob
> Is it possible that the after market high torque starter that you are =
using is set up for negative ground only? For a contact type starter =
like the original Lucas, it doesn=E2=80=99t care but perhaps your =
replacement unit has protection built in.
> P
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yes, that=E2=80=99s a pretty =
wretched item.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Perry Small =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 06 April 2022 13:20<br><b>To:</b> Bob =
Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net><br><b>Cc:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Starter =
electrical issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There is a =
small coil spring in the Lucas battery switch which in my experience has =
been the weak link. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>P<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Apr 5, 2022, at 10:09 PM, Bob Spidell =
<<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>=EF=BB=BF Plausible. I've rebuilt a =
battery switch, the contacts are pretty beefy copper plates, and I think =
they'd melt before they'd warp and return to shape, but ... =
plausible.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 4/5/2022 12:27 PM, =
Roland Wilhelmy wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The battery switch is on the light duty side but it =
must carry the full starting current. I can imagine that the terminals =
inside the switch get hot and warp just a bit disconnecting the battery. =
Then if given a chance to cool the terminals return to make connection =
once more. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Side =
note: Roger Moment recommends limiting the length of time running the =
starter when firing up a newly rebuilt engine and getting oil pressure, =
etc. Give the poor switch time to =
recover. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-Roland<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Apr 5, 2022, 11:53 AM Bob Spidell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal>The =
starter balking is understandable--at least, intuitively--but all =
<br>the other electricals ceasing to work isn't (assuming the battery is =
<br>still connected). After all, this isn't a modern car with a PCM, =
ECU, <br>etc; we're just talking copper wire here. My folks' Lincoln =
would die <br>when one of the CoPs would put a voltage spike on its =
primary lead, <br>which would knock the PCM out cold. No such silliness =
in a Healey.<br><br>Just to be contrarian, maybe the starter is causing =
a dead short, somehow?<br><br><br>On 4/5/2022 4:41 AM, Bob Begani via =
Healeys wrote:<br>> Perry, the ground is negative. From =
comments made by others am just going to replace the ground strap and =
with serrated washers so they dig into the metal especially on the =
frame. Will keep all advised.<br>><br>> Bob<br>><br>> =
-----Original Message-----<br>> From: Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of =
Perry Small via Healeys<br>> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:32 =
PM<br>> To: healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>> Subject: =
[Healeys] Starter electrical issues<br>><br>> Bob<br>> Is it =
possible that the after market high torque starter that you are using is =
set up for negative ground only? For a contact type starter like the =
original Lucas, it doesn=E2=80=99t care but perhaps your replacement =
unit has protection built in.<br>> P<br>><br>> Sent from my =
iPhone<br>> =
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