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Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder engine - AGAIN

To: <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder engine - AGAIN
From: BJ8Healeys via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 14:36:00 -0500
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Peter, since you referred Mr. Mayor to my comment of 16 March 2014 at BCF, I 
need to follow up.   I still believe 12B 766 is a part number.  Exactly which 
part, I don't know.  It isn't specifically identified as a serviceable part in 
the parts manual, which to me means that it wasn't a part that could be ordered 
from a dealer, so I interpreted it as a casting number.  My BJ8 engine has the 
same number in the same place. 
The BMC Mechanical Service Parts List for BJ7/BJ8 (Publication number AKD 3523) 
identifies several other detail parts of the engine that have similar part 
numbers, e.g.
Piston Assembly 12B 1159
Camshaft  12B 594
Crankshaft pulley with damper  12B 1274
Washer, nut (crankshaft dog nut) 12B 681

Other engine parts have similar, but different initial numbers
Flywheel  22B 136
Cylinder side cover (center) 2A 770

I'm sure the 12 or 12B and similar codes meant something to BMC but to know 
exactly what we would need more BMC design documentation than what appears to 
be available now.  12 or 12B means some part of an engine assembly, I would 
guess.

Someone some time ago was trying to document engine casting codes in an effort 
to figure out what they meant (date of the casting, etc.) but I forget now who 
that was.  I never paid much attention to those markings because I didn't think 
they were helpful in identification of a car, but since that post to the list I 
did try to identify those markings on my BJ8 engine and document as many others 
as possible.  Some of them are very difficult to access with the engine and 
other stuff installed.  The few I did record as reported by owners are these:

24A40 (or 24A49, last digit partially illegible) - engine 29K/RU/H977
7M4C - 29K/RU/H1670
D4C - 29K/RU/H1753
24A4C - 29K/RU/H1477
3H4D - 29K/RU/H3186
27H4C - 29K/RU/H5843
C23F5 - 29K/RU/H6295
C21F5 - 29K/RU/H11327 (my engine. Has 1 63 on the driver's side, both were cast 
with the block.

The apparent casting number of the unknown engine at BCF was L3C.

I do not know what the "M" in a diamond-shape logo means, but my engine has it 
also.

For what it's worth.....

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  USA



-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Dzwig 
via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 11:55 AM
To: richard mayor; healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder engine - 
AGAIN

Try again!

As far as I can see from the manuals and sites I have looked at, the
form "AEC xyz" is the standard BMC parts format for pretty much
anything), e.g. AEC 607 is a C series liner.

Now, see this page (no, really!)

<https://www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/help-me-identify-the-engine.95536/>

look at the second photo which shows the number and some sort of logo
beneath it. Now follow the contributions by "BJ8 Healey".

My guess - and it is only that - is that 12B refers to a block cast by
whoever's logo that is and 266 is the sequence number in the run *not* a
part number.

Regards,

Peter

On 05/12/2021 12:01, Peter Dzwig via Healeys wrote:
> Richard,
> 
> see here:
> 
> <https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-100-six-forum.5/100-6-cylinder-weslake-head-numbers.183672/>
> 
> It doesn't address your *specific* number but I guess that the answer is
> in line with what it says there namely that it's a Westlake head.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 05/12/2021 01:26, richard mayor via Healeys wrote:
>> What I thought was an Austin Healey 3000 engine has a casting number on
>> the side of the block 12B266.    It has the early style Austin block
>> with the tachometer drive housing.  The boss for the engine tag is in
>> the same place as the 3000 engines.
>>
>> I looked at a couple of early 3000 engines and the casting numbers on
>> them are AEC881.
>>
>> Does anyone know what engine this is?
>>
>> Richard
>>
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