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It even helped you find the /real/ problem ;)
On 10/10/2021 9:25 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
> I've had excellent results with Pertronics, and this wasnt the fault of it.
> Thiscwas a wire from it contacting the rotor and rubbing the insulation off
> the wire, causing an intermittent short. That Igniter has been in the car
> for years and never a failure
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Vrugtman via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:48:12 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] update--BJ8--puttering, backfiring and shutting down
>
> I've had two ignitor failures; one the magnet support unglued and they
> all fell out; dead stop; two a constant miss, one magnet was reversed.
> But generally they have been quite reliable.
>
> John
> Hightown, VA
>
> On 10/10/2021 10:12 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>> Thanks for reporting, Tom. When I read you suspected the Pertronix I
>> thought: "This is the first I've heard of an Ignitor becoming
>> intermittent (I'd always heard they failed outright."
>>
>>
>> On 10/10/2021 3:30 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
>>> After 3 days of intense troubleshooting and racking my feeble brain
>>> on why this happened, I FINALLY found out why. Background-------was
>>> having a pleasant drive-----felt a slight miss------BIG
>>> backfire--sputtering then cutting off. Sat for a while, she started
>>> and I drove maybe 100 yards. Repeat of above------------sat beside
>>> the road and checked to see if I had fuel to the
>>> carbs--yes-----pulled float bowl lids and plenty of gas in float
>>> bowls. had spark to plugs.  Nothing obvious--so called AAA--got
>>> towed home.
>>>
>>> Next several days I tried the switch and check method----changed fuel
>>> pump----changed coil, changed rotor, replaced dist cap, pulled the
>>> battery cut-off sw and directly shorted to body ground, checked to
>>> make sure the low tension wire had not grounded itself. ALL--to no
>>> avail. so I was down to my last idea.
>>>
>>> That was to pull and replace the Pertronix Ignitor. As I was taking
>>> it out, The cause of this whole mess became apparent. The hot wire
>>> from the Ignitor to the coil had been rubbed raw on one side of the
>>> wire, exposing just a tiny amount of the inner wire. It was this
>>> small amount of exposed wire that was shorting intermittingly. and
>>> this was the source of my problem.
>>> Apparently, over time the rotor had rubbed the wire until it rubbed
>>> enough insulation off to expose the wire. This shows how long that
>>> Pertronix had been in there.
>>>
>>> This was truly an AH HA moment. Happy I found it but so very
>>> flustrated over what it took to discover it. But in the process I got
>>> a new fuel pump (electronic), new dist cap, new rotor, new Ignitor,
>>> new Pertronix coil, and a lot of knowledge:)
>>>
>>> Glad the root cause was finally found and fixed and she is purring
>>> again:)
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> Anyway, replace
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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It even helped you find the <i>real</i> problem ;)<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/10/2021 9:25 AM, Tom Felts via
Healeys wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:1372658139.324713380.1633883147136.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I've had excellent results with
Pertronics, and this wasnt the fault of it. Thiscwas a wire from it contacting
the rotor and rubbing the insulation off the wire, causing an intermittent
short. That Igniter has been in the car for years and never a failure
----- Original Message -----
From: John Vrugtman via Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>
Sent: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:48:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] update--BJ8--puttering, backfiring and shutting down
I've had two ignitor failures; one the magnet support unglued and they
all fell out; dead stop; two a constant miss, one magnet was reversed.Â
But generally they have been quite reliable.
John
Hightown, VA
On 10/10/2021 10:12 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Thanks for reporting, Tom. When I
read you suspected the Pertronix I
thought: "This is the first I've heard of an Ignitor becoming
intermittent (I'd always heard they failed outright."
On 10/10/2021 3:30 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">After 3 days of intense
troubleshooting and racking my feeble brain
on why this happened, I FINALLY found out why. Background-------was
having a pleasant drive-----felt a slight miss------BIG
backfire--sputtering then cutting off. Sat for a while, she started
and I drove maybe 100 yards. Repeat of above------------sat beside
the road and checked to see if I had fuel to the
carbs--yes-----pulled float bowl lids and plenty of gas in float
bowls. had spark to plugs.  Nothing obvious--so called AAA--got
towed home.
Next several days I tried the switch and check method----changed fuel
pump----changed coil, changed rotor, replaced dist cap, pulled the
battery cut-off sw and directly shorted to body ground, checked to
make sure the low tension wire had not grounded itself. ALL--to no
avail. so I was down to my last idea.
That was to pull and replace the Pertronix Ignitor. As I was taking
it out, The cause of this whole mess became apparent. The hot wire
from the Ignitor to the coil had been rubbed raw on one side of the
wire, exposing just a tiny amount of the inner wire. It was this
small amount of exposed wire that was shorting intermittingly. and
this was the source of my problem.
Apparently, over time the rotor had rubbed the wire until it rubbed
enough insulation off to expose the wire. This shows how long that
Pertronix had been in there.
This was truly an AH HA moment. Happy I found it but so very
flustrated over what it took to discover it. But in the process I got
a new fuel pump (electronic), new dist cap, new rotor, new Ignitor,
new Pertronix coil, and a lot of knowledge:)
Glad the root cause was finally found and fixed and she is purring
again:)
Tom
Anyway, replace
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