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Re: [Healeys] update--BJ8--puttering, backfiring and shutting down

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] update--BJ8--puttering, backfiring and shutting down
From: John Vrugtman via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:48:12 -0400
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I've had two ignitor failures; one the magnet support unglued and they 
all fell out; dead stop; two a constant miss, one magnet was reversed.  
But generally they have been quite reliable.

John
Hightown, VA

On 10/10/2021 10:12 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
> Thanks for reporting, Tom. When I read you suspected the Pertronix I 
> thought: "This is the first I've heard of an Ignitor becoming 
> intermittent (I'd always heard they failed outright."
>
>
> On 10/10/2021 3:30 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys wrote:
>> After 3 days of intense troubleshooting and racking my feeble brain 
>> on why this happened, I FINALLY found out why. Background-------was 
>> having a pleasant drive-----felt a slight miss------BIG 
>> backfire--sputtering then cutting off.  Sat for a while, she started 
>> and I drove maybe 100 yards.  Repeat of above------------sat beside 
>> the road and checked to see if I had fuel to the 
>> carbs--yes-----pulled float bowl lids and plenty of gas in float 
>> bowls.  had spark to plugs.   Nothing obvious--so called AAA--got 
>> towed home.
>>
>> Next several days I tried the switch and check method----changed fuel 
>> pump----changed coil,  changed rotor, replaced dist cap, pulled the 
>> battery cut-off sw and directly shorted to body ground, checked to 
>> make sure the low tension wire had not grounded itself.  ALL--to no 
>> avail.  so I was down to my last idea.
>>
>> That was to pull and replace the Pertronix Ignitor.  As I was taking 
>> it out, The cause of this whole mess became apparent.  The hot wire 
>> from the Ignitor to the coil had been rubbed raw on one side of the 
>> wire, exposing just a tiny amount of the inner wire.  It was this 
>> small amount of exposed wire that was shorting intermittingly.  and 
>> this was the source of my problem.
>> Apparently, over time the rotor had rubbed the wire until it rubbed 
>> enough insulation off to expose the wire. This shows how long that 
>> Pertronix had been in there.
>>
>> This was truly an AH HA moment.  Happy I found it but so very 
>> flustrated over what it took to discover it. But in the process I got 
>> a new fuel pump (electronic), new dist cap, new rotor, new Ignitor, 
>> new Pertronix coil, and a lot of knowledge:)
>>
>> Glad the root cause was finally found and fixed and she is purring 
>> again:)
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Anyway, replace
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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    I've had two ignitor failures; one the magnet support unglued and
    they all fell out; dead stop; two a constant miss, one magnet was
    reversed.  But generally they have been quite reliable.<br>
    <br>
    John<br>
    Hightown, VA<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/10/2021 10:12 AM, Bob Spidell
      wrote:<br>
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      Thanks for reporting, Tom. When I read you suspected the Pertronix
      I thought: "This is the first I've heard of an Ignitor becoming
      intermittent (I'd always heard they failed outright."<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/10/2021 3:30 AM, Tom Felts via
        Healeys wrote:<br>
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        <div>After 3 days of intense troubleshooting and racking my
          feeble brain on why this happened, I FINALLY found out why. 
          Background-------was having a pleasant drive-----felt a slight
          miss------BIG backfire--sputtering then cutting off.  Sat for
          a while, she started and I drove maybe 100 yards.  Repeat of
          above------------sat beside the road and checked to see if I
          had fuel to the carbs--yes-----pulled float bowl lids and
          plenty of gas in float bowls.  had spark to plugs.   Nothing
          obvious--so called AAA--got towed home.</div>
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        <div>Next several days I tried the switch and check
          method----changed fuel pump----changed coil,  changed rotor,
          replaced dist cap, pulled the battery cut-off sw and directly
          shorted to body ground, checked to make sure the low tension
          wire had not grounded itself.  ALL--to no avail.  so I was
          down to my last idea.</div>
        <div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
        </div>
        <div>That was to pull and replace the Pertronix Ignitor.  As I
          was taking it out, The cause of this whole mess became
          apparent.  The hot wire from the Ignitor to the coil had been
          rubbed raw on one side of the wire, exposing just a tiny
          amount of the inner wire.  It was this small amount of exposed
          wire that was shorting intermittingly.  and this was the
          source of my problem.  </div>
        <div>Apparently, over time the rotor had rubbed the wire until
          it rubbed enough insulation off to expose the wire. This shows
          how long that Pertronix had been in there.</div>
        <div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
        </div>
        <div>This was truly an AH HA moment.  Happy I found it but so
          very flustrated over what it took to discover it. But in the
          process I got a new fuel pump (electronic), new dist cap, new
          rotor, new Ignitor, new Pertronix coil, and a lot of
          knowledge:)</div>
        <div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
        </div>
        <div>Glad the root cause was finally found and fixed and she is
          purring again:)</div>
        <div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
        </div>
        <div>Tom</div>
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        <div>Anyway, replace</div>
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