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I used grease.
Mark Fawcett
On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 3:25 PM Mark Donaldson via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Tom,
>
>
>
> In cases like this I have used the old engineers=E2=80=99 trick to *=E2=
=80=98hydraulic=E2=80=99*
> the pilot bearing out.
>
> Fill the cavity behind the bearing with oil, insert a =C2=BE=E2=80=9D OD =
drift into the
> bearing, give it a solid belt with a hammer, and it SHOULD pop out.
>
> This procedure has never failed me. I say SHOULD, as it may not have
> worked for you.
>
> And don=E2=80=99t wear a good shirt whilst doing this. =F0=9F=98=8A
>
>
>
> Mark
>
> Ardmore, NZ
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Felts <Tomfelts@windstream.net>
> Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 8:00 AM
> To: BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch
>
>
>
> I currently have my BJ8 tranny out. I have had the OD completely
> completely rebuilt and having a few well worn tranny components replaced.=
The
> worst part of taking out the tranny and rebuilding is getting the old pil=
ot
> bush out and a new one installed. If anyone thinks the Healey clutch is
> a tough job, I invite you to replace clutch components in an E Type. The
> engine must be pulled with all that has to be disconnected. I'm in the
> process of removing mine now. That carbon TO bearing rubbed itself down t=
o
> metal:):)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: BJ8Healeys via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
>
> Sent: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 15:01:11 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch
>
>
>
> In January 2014, I removed the gearbox and overdrive from my BJ8 to fix a
> problem with the O/D slipping (low oil pressure) and a bad clutch judder =
in
> reverse that I had put up with for too long.
>
>
>
> I replaced the clutch release bearing for convenience and because I
> already had the new one in hand. The new bearing carbon block from Moss
> Motors measured 10/32" thick. The old one (also Moss Motors, installed
> September
>
> 1997) measured 9/32". That was only 1/32" wear in 80,534 miles, but
> mostly
>
> long-distance ones. A photo of the old clutch disc is attached.
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
>
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
>
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
>
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
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>
> Havelock, NC USA
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 11:55 AM
>
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch
>
>
>
>
>
> As for clutch longevity, there are several significant variables: (your)
> location, type of driving, driving style, etc. For example, if you DD you=
r
> car in San Francisco, I wouldn't expect a clutch to last 50K miles, if th=
at
> long. If you mostly drive highway miles, I think 100K is easily doable; I
> traded my '08 Mustang in at 124K miles with original clutch and brakes.
>
> Although I've been driving manual cars for over 50 years, I still don't
> feel I've 'mastered' them (like landings in an aircraft). Dump the clutch
> too quickly and you'll increase longevity--if you don't break anything--a=
t
> the expense of smoothness, be very delicate and slip it too much and you
> won't get 'normal' longevity. Actually, IMO Healeys are relatively easier
> to drive well, a properly set-up clutch with a Healey's torque makes smoo=
th
> starts easier; my '19 Mustang is high-strung by comparison and I still
> manage to stall it occasionally.
>
>
>
> The release bearing can be problematic as, unlike a true bearing it's a
> known wear item. I heard a while back there were some low quality parts
> going around that failed within a few thousand miles. I'd say if it's mor=
e
> than one-third worn--anyone know the original thickness of the
> graphite?--I'd replace it (again, depending on driving circumstances).
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I used grease.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Mark Fawcett</div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 3:25 PM Mark Donaldson via Healeys <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-NZ" styl=
e=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0,0,102)">Tom,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_=
6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,102)"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText=
"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,102)">In cases like this I have used the old=
engineers=E2=80=99 trick to <b>=E2=80=98hydraulic=E2=80=99</b> the pilot b=
earing out.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_687594735140=
2589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,102)">Fill the cavity beh=
ind the bearing with oil, insert a =C2=BE=E2=80=9D OD drift into the bearin=
g, give it a solid belt with a hammer, and it SHOULD pop out.=C2=A0 <u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,102)">This procedure has never failed me.=C2=A0 I =
say SHOULD, as it may not have worked for you.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0=
,0,102)">And don=E2=80=99t wear a good shirt whilst doing this.=C2=A0 </spa=
n><span style=3D"font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:rg=
b(0,0,102)">=F0=9F=98=8A</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,102)"><u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,102)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gma=
il-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,102)">Ma=
rk<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainT=
ext"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,102)">Ardmore, NZ<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(0,0,102)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351=
402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:windowtext">-----Original Message-----<br>From: T=
om Felts <<a href=3D"mailto:Tomfelts@windstream.net"; target=3D"_blank">T=
omfelts@windstream.net</a>> <br>Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 8:00 AM=
<br>To: BJ8Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank=
">sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>><br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"=
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clu=
tch</span><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowte=
xt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931M=
soPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">I currently have my BJ8 trann=
y out.=C2=A0 I have had the OD completely completely rebuilt and having a f=
ew well worn tranny components replaced.=C2=A0 <span style=3D"background:aq=
ua">The worst part of taking out the tranny and rebuilding is getting the o=
ld pilot bush out and=C2=A0 a new one installed.</span> =C2=A0If anyone thi=
nks the Healey clutch is a tough job, I invite you to replace clutch compon=
ents in an E Type.=C2=A0 The engine must be pulled with all that has to be =
disconnected.=C2=A0 I'm in the process of removing mine now. That carbo=
n TO bearing rubbed itself down to metal:):)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowt=
ext">----- Original Message -----<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail=
-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">From: =
BJ8Healeys via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">healeys@a=
utox.team.net</span></a>><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_68=
75947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">To: <a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:w=
indowtext;text-decoration:none">healeys@autox.team.net</span></a><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:windowtext">Sent: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 15:01:11 -0400 (EDT)<u></u=
><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><sp=
an style=3D"color:windowtext">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch<u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=
=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_68=
75947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">In January =
2014, I removed the gearbox and overdrive from my BJ8 to fix a problem with=
the O/D slipping (low oil pressure) and a bad clutch judder in reverse tha=
t I had put up with for too long.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail=
-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainTex=
t"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">I replaced the clutch release bearing f=
or convenience and because I already had the new one in hand.=C2=A0 The new=
bearing carbon block from Moss Motors measured 10/32" thick.=C2=A0 Th=
e old one (also Moss Motors, installed September<u></u><u></u></span></p><p=
class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:win=
dowtext">1997) measured 9/32".=C2=A0=C2=A0 That was only 1/32" we=
ar in 80,534 miles, but mostly<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_=
6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">long-dist=
ance ones.=C2=A0 A photo of the old clutch disc is attached.<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=
=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_68=
75947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> <u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-=
m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Steve B=
yers<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlai=
nText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windo=
wtext">HBJ8L/36666<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_687594735140=
2589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=
=3D"color:windowtext">BJ8 Registry<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmai=
l-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainTe=
xt"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">AHCA Delegate at Large<u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=
=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_68=
75947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Havelock, N=
C=C2=A0 USA<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931=
MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"colo=
r:windowtext"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_687594735140258=
9931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"=
color:windowtext">From: Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.te=
am.net" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:n=
one">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</span></a>] On Behalf Of Bob Spi=
dell<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlai=
nText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 =
11:55 AM<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931Mso=
PlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decor=
ation:none">healeys@autox.team.net</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:window=
text">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gma=
il-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainT=
ext"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPl=
ainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">As for clutch longevity, there ar=
e several significant variables: (your) location, type of driving, driving =
style, etc. For example, if you DD your car in San Francisco, I wouldn'=
t expect a clutch to last 50K miles, if that long. If you mostly drive high=
way miles, I think 100K is easily doable; I traded my '08 Mustang in at=
124K miles with original clutch and brakes.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowt=
ext">Although I've been driving manual cars for over 50=C2=A0 years, I =
still don't feel I've 'mastered' them (like landings in an =
aircraft). Dump the clutch too quickly and you'll increase longevity--i=
f you don't break anything--at the expense of smoothness, be very delic=
ate and slip it too much and you won't get 'normal' longevity. =
Actually, IMO Healeys are relatively easier to drive well, a properly set-u=
p clutch with a Healey's torque makes smooth starts easier; my '19 =
Mustang is high-strung by comparison and I still manage to stall it occasio=
nally.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPl=
ainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p=
class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:win=
dowtext">The release bearing can be problematic as, unlike a true bearing i=
t's a known wear item. I heard a while back there were some low quality=
parts going around that failed within a few thousand miles. I'd say if=
it's more than one-third worn--anyone know the original thickness of t=
he graphite?--I'd replace it (again, depending on driving circumstances=
). <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlain=
Text"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Bob<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtex=
t"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931Ms=
oPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windo=
wtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_68759473514025899=
31MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:w=
indowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402=
589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> <u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"col=
or:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_687594735=
1402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> <u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D=
"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_68759=
47351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> <u></u><u></u=
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e=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6=
875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gmail-m_6875947351402589931MsoPlainText"><=
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