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Tom,
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In cases like this I have used the old engineers=E2=80=99 trick to =
=E2=80=98hydraulic=E2=80=99 the pilot bearing out. =20
Fill the cavity behind the bearing with oil, insert a =C2=BE=E2=80=9D OD =
drift into the bearing, give it a solid belt with a hammer, and it =
SHOULD pop out. =20
This procedure has never failed me. I say SHOULD, as it may not have =
worked for you.
And don=E2=80=99t wear a good shirt whilst doing this. =F0=9F=98=8A
=20
Mark
Ardmore, NZ
=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Felts <Tomfelts@windstream.net>=20
Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 8:00 AM
To: BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch
=20
I currently have my BJ8 tranny out. I have had the OD completely =
completely rebuilt and having a few well worn tranny components =
replaced. The worst part of taking out the tranny and rebuilding is =
getting the old pilot bush out and a new one installed. If anyone =
thinks the Healey clutch is a tough job, I invite you to replace clutch =
components in an E Type. The engine must be pulled with all that has to =
be disconnected. I'm in the process of removing mine now. That carbon =
TO bearing rubbed itself down to metal:):)
----- Original Message -----
healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 15:01:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch
=20
In January 2014, I removed the gearbox and overdrive from my BJ8 to fix =
a problem with the O/D slipping (low oil pressure) and a bad clutch =
judder in reverse that I had put up with for too long.
=20
I replaced the clutch release bearing for convenience and because I =
already had the new one in hand. The new bearing carbon block from Moss =
Motors measured 10/32" thick. The old one (also Moss Motors, installed =
September
1997) measured 9/32". That was only 1/32" wear in 80,534 miles, but =
mostly
long-distance ones. A photo of the old clutch disc is attached.
=20
=20
Steve Byers
=20
HBJ8L/36666
=20
BJ8 Registry
=20
AHCA Delegate at Large
=20
Havelock, NC USA
=20
=20
mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Clutch
=20
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As for clutch longevity, there are several significant variables: (your) =
location, type of driving, driving style, etc. For example, if you DD =
your car in San Francisco, I wouldn't expect a clutch to last 50K miles, =
if that long. If you mostly drive highway miles, I think 100K is easily =
doable; I traded my '08 Mustang in at 124K miles with original clutch =
and brakes.
Although I've been driving manual cars for over 50 years, I still don't =
feel I've 'mastered' them (like landings in an aircraft). Dump the =
clutch too quickly and you'll increase longevity--if you don't break =
anything--at the expense of smoothness, be very delicate and slip it too =
much and you won't get 'normal' longevity. Actually, IMO Healeys are =
relatively easier to drive well, a properly set-up clutch with a =
Healey's torque makes smooth starts easier; my '19 Mustang is =
high-strung by comparison and I still manage to stall it occasionally.
=20
The release bearing can be problematic as, unlike a true bearing it's a =
known wear item. I heard a while back there were some low quality parts =
going around that failed within a few thousand miles. I'd say if it's =
more than one-third worn--anyone know the original thickness of the =
graphite?--I'd replace it (again, depending on driving circumstances).=20
Bob
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>Tom,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:#000066'>In cases like this I =
have used the old engineers=E2=80=99 trick to =
<b>=E2=80=98hydraulic=E2=80=99</b> the pilot bearing out.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>Fill the cavity behind the bearing with oil, =
insert a =C2=BE=E2=80=9D OD drift into the bearing, give it a solid belt =
with a hammer, and it SHOULD pop out.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:#000066'>This procedure has =
never failed me.=C2=A0 I say SHOULD, as it may not have worked for =
you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>And don=E2=80=99t wear a good shirt whilst doing =
this.=C2=A0 </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif;color:#000066'>😊</span><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:#000066'>Ardmore, =
NZ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: Tom Felts <Tomfelts@windstream.net> =
<br>Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 8:00 AM<br>To: BJ8Healeys =
<sbyers@ec.rr.com><br>Cc: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Subject: Re: =
[Healeys] Clutch</span><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>I currently have =
my BJ8 tranny out.=C2=A0 I have had the OD completely completely rebuilt =
and having a few well worn tranny components replaced.=C2=A0 <span =
style=3D'background:aqua;mso-highlight:aqua'>The worst part of taking =
out the tranny and rebuilding is getting the old pilot bush out =
and=C2=A0 a new one installed.</span> =C2=A0If anyone thinks the Healey =
clutch is a tough job, I invite you to replace clutch components in an E =
Type.=C2=A0 The engine must be pulled with all that has to be =
disconnected.=C2=A0 I'm in the process of removing mine now. That carbon =
TO bearing rubbed itself down to metal:):)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>----- Original =
Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>From: BJ8Healeys via Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>healeys@autox.team.net</s=
pan></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>healeys@autox.team.net</s=
pan></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Sent: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 15:01:11 -0400 =
(EDT)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
Clutch<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>In January 2014, I =
removed the gearbox and overdrive from my BJ8 to fix a problem with the =
O/D slipping (low oil pressure) and a bad clutch judder in reverse that =
I had put up with for too long.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>I replaced the =
clutch release bearing for convenience and because I already had the new =
one in hand.=C2=A0 The new bearing carbon block from Moss Motors =
measured 10/32" thick.=C2=A0 The old one (also Moss Motors, =
installed September<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>1997) measured 9/32".=C2=A0=C2=A0 That =
was only 1/32" wear in 80,534 miles, but =
mostly<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>long-distance ones.=C2=A0 A photo of the old =
clutch disc is attached.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Steve =
Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>BJ8 =
Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>AHCA Delegate at =
Large<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Havelock, NC=C2=A0 =
USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>From: Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:healeys-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</span></a>] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 11:55 =
AM<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>healeys@autox.team.net</s=
pan></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
Clutch<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>As for clutch =
longevity, there are several significant variables: (your) location, =
type of driving, driving style, etc. For example, if you DD your car in =
San Francisco, I wouldn't expect a clutch to last 50K miles, if that =
long. If you mostly drive highway miles, I think 100K is easily doable; =
I traded my '08 Mustang in at 124K miles with original clutch and =
brakes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Although I've been driving manual cars for =
over 50=C2=A0 years, I still don't feel I've 'mastered' them (like =
landings in an aircraft). Dump the clutch too quickly and you'll =
increase longevity--if you don't break anything--at the expense of =
smoothness, be very delicate and slip it too much and you won't get =
'normal' longevity. Actually, IMO Healeys are relatively easier to drive =
well, a properly set-up clutch with a Healey's torque makes smooth =
starts easier; my '19 Mustang is high-strung by comparison and I still =
manage to stall it occasionally.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>The release =
bearing can be problematic as, unlike a true bearing it's a known wear =
item. I heard a while back there were some low quality parts going =
around that failed within a few thousand miles. I'd say if it's more =
than one-third worn--anyone know the original thickness of the =
graphite?--I'd replace it (again, depending on driving circumstances). =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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