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Well, they claim to have an 'upgraded' part (guess that's kinda German,
too ;)
On 8/30/2021 1:27 PM, David Lodge wrote:
> Being German, I imagine that the quality is first-rate. They have the
> best darned Healey catalogue I've ever seen!
>
>
> On Sunday, 29 August 2021, 07:01:03 GMT-7, Bob Spidell
> <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> In the second illustration on BPN it shows a (claimed) larger
> scalloped area on the impeller. Sounds reasonable but, according to
> Moss, it won't fit the original heater cutoff valve, which I have and
> would like to keep (one from Moss is almost $180).
>
>
> On 8/29/2021 4:26 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> Bob--
>
> Thanks and in checking the Moss catalogue this morning I see that in
> fact they do sell the two side-by-side as you state at $96.00 and
> $163.00 respectively. That is an 80% increase in price for the
> "upgraded" pump and I must wonder what the pump achieves--and how it
> does it--to justify such an increase. "Upgrade" might have several
> meanings and given the propensity of these pumps to fail, perhaps
> the term describes longevity versus performance, with a better-quality
> seal. OTOH if the upgrade is in performance that usually means
> increased water flow. Unless the outer housing is substantially
> larger the cast-in "fins" on the internal impeller cannot be that much
> larger and so I wonder how such an increase would be achieved.
>
> Just sayin'....
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net
>
> Michael,
>
> The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear to be
> the same:
>
> https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html
> <https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html>
>
> (if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)
>
> Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a 'but'--per the Moss
> catalog it will not fit the OEM brass heater line valve/nipple.
> The cheaper one Moss sells supposedly does, but best I can tell
> it's a County product. I've bad experiences with County, but both
> Tom Monaco and David Nock say they have fit many with no issues.
>
> The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also comes
> with a barbed nipple:
>
>
> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx
>
> <https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx>
>
>
> I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose; pump
> appears to be OK.
>
> Bob
>
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Well, they claim to have an 'upgraded' part (guess that's kinda
German, too ;)<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/30/2021 1:27 PM, David Lodge
wrote:<br>
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<div data-setdir="false" dir="ltr">Being German, I imagine that
the quality is first-rate. They have the best darned Healey
catalogue I've ever seen!<br>
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<div> On Sunday, 29 August 2021, 07:01:03 GMT-7, Bob Spidell
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"><bspidell@comcast.net></a> wrote:
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<div id="yiv9407397241">
<div> In the second illustration on BPN it shows a
(claimed) larger scalloped area on the impeller. Sounds
reasonable but, according to Moss, it won't fit the
original heater cutoff valve, which I have and would
like to keep (one from Moss is almost $180).<br
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id="yiv9407397241yqtfd23762">
<div class="yiv9407397241moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/2021
4:26 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv9407397241gmail_default"
style="color:#3333ff;">Bob--</div>
<div class="yiv9407397241gmail_default"
style="color:#3333ff;"><br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv9407397241gmail_default"
style="color:#3333ff;">Thanks and in checking the
Moss catalogue this morning I see that in fact
they do sell the two side-by-side as you state at
$96.00 and $163.00 respectively. That is an 80%
increase in price for the "upgraded" pump and I
must wonder what the pump achieves--and how it
does it--to justify such an increase. "Upgrade"
might have several meanings and given the
propensity of these pumps to fail, perhaps
the term describes longevity versus performance,
with a better-quality seal. OTOH if the upgrade
is in performance that usually means increased
water flow. Unless the outer housing is
substantially larger the cast-in "fins" on the
internal impeller cannot be that much larger
and so I wonder how such an increase would be
achieved.</div>
<div class="yiv9407397241gmail_default"
style="color:#3333ff;"><br clear="none">
</div>
<div class="yiv9407397241gmail_default"
style="color:#3333ff;">Just sayin'.... </div>
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style="color:#3333ff;"><br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv9407397241gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On
Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell <<a
rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"
target="_blank"
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">bspidell@comcast.net</a>>
wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div> Michael,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and
BPN all appear to be the same:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
shape="rect" target="_blank"
href="https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html</a><br
clear="none">
<br clear="none">
(if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the
pump body)<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a
'but'--per the Moss catalog it will not fit the
OEM brass heater line valve/nipple. The cheaper
one Moss sells supposedly does, but best I can
tell it's a County product. I've bad experiences
with County, but both Tom Monaco and David Nock
say they have fit many with no issues.<br
clear="none">
<br clear="none">
The new one from AHSpares appears to be
different, but also comes with a barbed nipple:<br
clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
shape="rect" target="_blank"
href="https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx</a><br
clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
I started to remove my pump, but found the
pulley was loose; pump appears to be OK.<br
clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Bob<br clear="none">
<br>
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